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Title: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: blackenbauer114 on Monday 04 December 17 16:55 GMT (UK)
Hello

I am trying to find the Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland.  I have that it is called simply, Keith Cemetery, but when I try looking it up under that name all I find is the Keith Cemetery in Keith, Moray, Scotland.  Does the Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire have a different name?

Another ancestor is supposedly buried at the Keith Old Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, not sure if it is the same cemetery as I mentioned above or if there are 2 cemeteries in Keith, Banffshire.

Thank you in advance for your help
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: iluleah on Monday 04 December 17 17:42 GMT (UK)
Two Keith Old Cemetery or Botriphnie Cemetery

https://canmore.org.uk/site/272784/keith-cemetery
https://canmore.org.uk/site/272754/drummuir-botriphnie-parish-church-burial-ground
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: weeaza on Monday 04 December 17 18:16 GMT (UK)
Keith, Banffshire and Keith, Moray are the same place.

From Wikipedia.

Keith (Scottish Gaelic: Baile Chèith, or Cèith Mhaol Rubha (archaic)) is a small town in the Moray council area in north east Scotland. It has a population of 4,734.
Until 1975 it was in Banffshire, a name which persists in common usage and historical references.

There are two cemeteries in Keith. Keith Old Cemetery and Broomhill Road Cemetery.
I have access to the burial records for Keith Old Cemetery.
If you give me a name and year I'll have a look for you.

Steven
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: blackenbauer114 on Tuesday 05 December 17 00:14 GMT (UK)
The family is Fraser

William Fraser (Father) b. Abt. 1767 Died either NOV 1804 or Jan 1816
Marjory McKenzie Fraser (Mother) b. 15 Sep 1768 d. POSS 1 JUN 1817
Children:
Isobel Fraser b. Nov 1786 d. 18 Feb 1867 in Keith
John Fraser b. 1789 d. POSS 29 JUN 1846 
Helen Fraser b. Nov 1792 d. 20 Apr 1872  in Keith
Margaret Fraser b. either 1794 or 1798 d. 22 Feb 1873  in Keith
James Fraser b. 1801 d. 16 Sep 1875  I know James is buried in Keith Cemetery, John Fraser plot Sect 212 West Side.

So I'm almost positive Isobel, Helen and Margaret will be in the Keith Cemetery.  I am unsure about the parents and son John.  I'm hoping to find these graves to help verify dates, even if it's only the year of death.

None of these are on Find a Grave and I don't know of any other web site for looking up international grave sites.  I live near Seattle, WA USA and can't afford to travel at this time.

Thank you very much for your help!
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: weeaza on Tuesday 05 December 17 18:13 GMT (UK)
I can't see anything for parents William and Marjory. The records I have start in 1829.

The rest of them are all in the same very large plot which looks to have 47 people buried in it.


Page 237. Name: John Fraser. Section Number on Plan 212. Extent of Ground on West side 6 feet 3 inches, on East side two lengths 5 feet 0 inches. 
Age
Depth of Grave
Number of Grave
Stone

Date of Burial

Dec 18th 1834 Sarah Taylor   3 W side 
Dec 23rd 1834 Margaret Fraser   3 W side 
Apr 25th 1835 James Cameron a child   1 E side 
Jun 20th 1838 Ann Asher   1 E side 
Apr 21st 1840 Thomas Fraser   2 W side 
Feb 16th 1842 Donald McIver   2 E side 
Mar 21st 1842 Ann McKay   2 E side 
Jan 5th 1843 Robert Paterson   1 W side 
Feb 17th 1845 Robert Allan   1 E side 
Jun 29th 1846 John Fraser Snr   3 W side 
Jul 27th 1847 John Fraser a boy   2 W side 
Feb 4th 1848 James Carmichael Fraser   1 E side 
Oct 4th 1853 Ann Fraser   3 W side 
Jan 13th 1855 Mary Gordon Fraser   1 W side 
Feb 5th 1855 Raffan a child   1 E side 
Dec 28th 1855 Fraser a child   3 W side 
Jun 25th 1856 Alexander Fraser a boy   1 W side 
Sep 5th 1856 John Gauld a boy   2 W side 
Jan 15th 1861 Jane Alexander a child   1 East 
Jul 30th 1863 Hellen Smith Fraser a girl   2 West 
Sep 29th 1864 Duncan Martin a child   2 East 
Oct 13th 1864 Jane Fraser or Murdoch   3 West 
Dec 6th 1865 Hendry a child   1 East 
Feb 21st 1867 Isobel Fraser   1 West 
Mar 20th 1868 Green a child   2 West 
Oct 19th 1870 Charles Stuart a child   2 East 
Apr 23rd 1872 Helen Fraser   1 East 
Feb 25th 1873 Margaret Monk or Fraser   2 East 
Jan 7th 1874 Janet Fraser or McKay   3 W side 
Mar 25th 1874 John Fraser Simpson a child   3 W side 
Sep 20th 1875 James Fraser   2 W side 
Nov 16th 1875 Jane Fraser a child   2 W side 
Mar 24th 1877 John Fraser, Fife-Keith   1 W side 
Jan 15th 1879 Helen Smith or Fraser   1 W side 
May 28th 1879 Jessie Gauld   1 E side 
Jan 25th 1881 Alexander Gauld   2 E side 
Mar 13th 1883 John Fraser, Moss Street, Keith   2 W side 
Feb 14th 1905 William Fraser, Keith   2 W side 
Dec 29th 1905 May Grant or Fraser   3 West 
Apr 2nd 1907 Jas Fraser Moush   1 West 
Nov 18th 1908 Jane Fraser Gauld   1 East 
Mar 1st 1917 Jessie Fraser or Mann  4 ft 2 East 
Aug 16th 1917 Harry James Edward a child  3 ft 1 West 
May 4th 1922 William Mann  4 ft 1 East 
Dec 21st 1936 Margaret Taylor or Fraser 74 4 ft 2 West 
Dec 8th 1956 Catherine F. Ingram 59  1 West 
Feb 20th 2004 Kathleen Mary Ingram, Ashburton, New Zealand  Ashes   

Steven
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 05 December 17 19:43 GMT (UK)
There are two burial grounds in Keith.

One is the Old Cemetery, which is one the bank of the River Isla between Old Keith and Fife-Keith. See http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4089091

The other is the much newer Broomhill Cemetery, beside the road to Banff on the north-eastern outskirts of the town. See http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/747597

All gravestone inscriptions in the present Moray local authority area were surveyed in 1978-1979, and this information is a large part of the data in LIBINDX http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp

There is a project to add to LIBINDX all records of burials in both, but this is as yet incomplete.

There is also a kirkyard at Drummuir in the parish of Botriphnie http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/7016, but this is obviously not in the town or parish of Keith, even though its postal address nowadays includes Keith as the post town. 

Keith is in the historic county of Banffshire, which still exists for ceremonial purposes, but for modern local government purposes it is part of Moray, along with about two-thirds of the parishes of Banffshire. The other Banffshire parishes now come under Aberdeenshire.
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: blackenbauer114 on Wednesday 06 December 17 16:47 GMT (UK)
THANK YOU!  This information is awesome!  I really appreciate your help.
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: blackenbauer114 on Saturday 09 December 17 20:43 GMT (UK)
Steven

I wanted to Thank you again for the list for the John Fraser. Section Number on Plan 212 in the Keith Graveyard.  I found all but 3 of the Fraser's on the list, in my tree.  The 3 I could not find were children and it's hard to match when you don't have a birth date or a parents name.  But I also found several other people I wasn't expecting.  I know there are more Fraser's buried in the Keith Graveyard then is on the list but I don't need exact location like Section Numbers.  It's just wonderful knowing where they are interned so if I ever get the chance to visit Scotland, I will know where to visit.

To make it easier for other researchers I have added memorials for all those I found on Findagrave.com, it's a wonderful genealogical tool, especially when people add Bio's for the ancestor.

Beverly Peer Lackenbauer
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: weeaza on Sunday 24 December 17 17:27 GMT (UK)
Beverly

I will list all of the burials for Frasers on the records I have.

From the burial book started in 1829.

Date of burial

Feb 20th 1859 John Fraser, a child
May 3rd 1861 Hugh Fraser, a child
Nov 11th 1864     Fraser, a child
Jul 21st 1876 Catherine Fraser or Henderson
Apr 13th 1837 Janet Fraser
Aug 17th 1837 Elspet Fraser
Oct 3rd 1840 Mary Fraser
Apr 6th 1841 Alexander Fraser
Mar 15th 1865 Isabella Fraser, a child
Aug 6th 1872 Alexander Fraser
Dec 25th 1890 Ann Fraser or Pirie
Feb 21st 1893 Isabella Grant or Fraser
Mar 10th 1904 Neil Fraser 6 mths
Feb 12th 1906 Ann S. Fraser, a child
Jan 22nd 1936 Margaret Fraser or Munro
Jul 13th 1830 Jean Fraser
Sep 19th 1856 Jane Fraser or Allan
Nov 21st 1830 James Fraser
Jan 2nd 1838 David Fraser
Feb 22nd 1847 James Fraser
Feb 21st 1889 Annie F. Fraser a child
Sep 6th 1835 Jessie Fraser
Jan 8th 1861 Margaret Fraser
Dec 23rd 1864 John Fraser
Jul 28th 1872 Ann Fraser
Dec 11th 1874 Hugh Fraser
Jan 8th 1887 Margaret Fraser
Jan 15th 1835 Ann Fraser
Mar 15th 1862 Fraser a child 
Dec 29th 1863 Fraser a child
May 13th 1897 William Fraser, Rosarie
Aug 14th 1912 Ann Newlands or Fraser
Feb 28th 1838 Alexander Fraser
May 31st 1887 Ann Fraser or Anderson
Feb 20th 1851 Robert Fraser
Jun 29th 1833 Ann Fraser
Jul 22nd 1847 James Fraser
Sep 23rd 1912 Margaret Fraser or Sellar
Jun 11th 1904 Isabella Fraser or Simpson
Dec 24th 1849 Jane Fraser
Jul 13th 1858 Jane Fraser Forsyth
Oct 29th 1835 Janet Fraser
Mar 11th 1837 Anna Fraser
Dec 22nd 1840 William Fraser
Apr 8th 1842 Jane Fraser
Jul 27th 1844 Mrs. Fraser
Feb 27th 1865 Mary Fraser
Dec 1st 1880 William Fraser
Oct 18th 1887 Dr. William Fraser
May 30th 1891 Eliza Fraser
Jan 2nd 1920 Margaret Fraser
Sep 22nd 1830 John Fraser
Apr 1st 1847 Ann Fraser
May 19th 1877 Ann Fraser or Rennie
Sep 15th 1898 Jane Fraser or Smith
Jul 4th 1898 Helen Fraser or Milne, Rothes
Dec 9th 1900 Mary Fraser a child
Mar 17th 1926 John Fraser
Jun 27th 1936 Elizabeth Milne or Fraser
Jun 4th 1874 Margaret Duncan or Fraser
May 8th 1895 Helen Fraser
May 2nd 1829 William Fraser
Nov 6th 1838 William Fraser a child
Jun 23rd 1840 Alexander Fraser a child
Jul 27th 1841 Robert Fraser
Mar 10th 1843 A child of Isabella Fraser's
Apr 8th 1843 Ann Fraser
Mar 14th 1845 James Fraser a child
Jan 21st 1846 William Fraser a boy
Jul 1st 1850 Alexander Fraser
Mar 24th 1852 James Fraser
Feb 3rd 1868 William Fraser a boy
Mar 29th 1869 Janet Fraser
Mar 29th 1870 Isobel Phimister or Fraser
Jan 25th 1877 Jane Keir or Fraser
May 2nd 1877 Elspet Carr or Fraser
Feb 6th 1878 Elspet Helen Fraser
Feb 18th 1884 Fraser a child
Dec 11th 1884 Janet Fraser a child
Oct 26th 1887 Elizabeth Shearer or Fraser
Mar 22nd 1889 Hugh Fraser
Feb 1st 1896 Elizabeth Fraser
Sep 20th 1898 John Fraser a child
Apr 28th 1899 John Fraser, Fife-Keith
Feb 26th 1901 Isie Fraser or Bruce
Oct 12th 1903 Isabella Coutts or Fraser
May 29th 1905 Burnett Fraser a child
Feb 12th 1906 Lily Fraser a child
May 24th 1921 Janet Fraser
May 20th 1934 George Fraser
Jan 16th 1888 Margaret Fraser or Brewster
Jan 5th 1869 Ann Sellar or Fraser
Mar 1st 1869 William Fraser
Mar 2nd 1874 Margaret Walker or Fraser
Feb 13th 1931 Helen Fraser or Macdonald

Steven
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: weeaza on Sunday 24 December 17 18:23 GMT (UK)
1871 Book. Burials Section.

Page 34. Lair (Section F. No 15,16. John Fraser, Esq., Solicitor, Land Street, Keith.)

May 19th 1922 Lizzie Fraser McGregor 7 wks
Oct 18th 1874 Margaret Jane Fraser, Land Street, Keith
Jun 19th 1907 John Fraser, Solicitor, Chapel Street, Keith 68
Oct 14th 1909 Transferred to Mrs. Anna Sellar or Fraser, 13 Chapel Street, Keith.     
Nov 24th 1917 Anne Sellar or Fraser 76
Nov 9th 1938 Bert Fraser, Solicitor 56
Apr 16th 1941 Transferred to Mrs. Wilhemina Kelty or Fraser, Mansifield, Keith.     
Jun 18th 1962 Wilhemina Kelty or Fraser

Page 113. Lair (Section  C. No 11,12. John Simpson, Blacksmith, Square, Keith.)
Mar 15th 1883 Janet Ross or Fraser 70
May 28th 1889 Maggie Fraser Simpson 11
Dec 14th 1934 Janet Morrison Fraser or Simpson 90

Page 138. Lair (Section D. No 13,14. John Fraser, Brewer and Feuar, Old Keith.)

Sep 7th 1882 John Fraser 75
May 12th 1886 Jane Mantach or Fraser
Jan 30th 1932 John Mantach Fraser 69

Page 167. FREE GROUND
Oct 3rd 1876 Margaret Leslie or Fraser, Glen of Newmill 62
Mar 5th 1877 Mary Fraser, Bridge Street, Keith 48
Apr 14th 1879 William Fraser, Moss Street, Keith 8

Page 168. FREE GROUND
Jun 11th 1879 Elizabeth Fraser or Inglis 59
Apr 30th 1880 Isabella Fraser, Fife Street, Keith 36
Aug 10th 1880 Jane Stewart or Fraser, Bogbain 78

Page 169. FREE GROUND
Apr 2nd 1883 Lewis Fraser, Newmill 67

Page 170. FREE GROUND
Feb 2nd 1884 John Fraser, Glen of Newmill 37
Jan 17th 1885 Ann Fraser, Back Street, Keith 40

Page 171. FREE GROUND
Apr 7th 1890 Elspet Fraser 9

Page 174. FREE GROUND
Jul 5th 1897 Elizabeth Allan or Fraser 46
Dec 20th 1897 Isabella Fraser, Glen of Newmill 73

Page 175. FREE GROUND
Aug 23rd 1900 Peter Fraser, Newmill 64
Mar 28th 1901 Andrew Fraser, Cairnie 30

Page 177. FREE GROUND
Jun 27th 1905 Peter Fraser, Keith 71
Nov 22nd 1907 John Fraser, 137 Mid Street, Keith

Page 178. FREE GROUND
Jan 24th 1910 Violet Fraser, Newmill 11
Mar 31st 1913 Elsie Fraser or Anderson, Buckie 82

Page 179. FREE GROUND
Jun 14th 1928 Sarah Fraser or Campbell 26

GRAVES FOR CHILDREN IN FREE GROUND. 1871 - 1873
May 18th 1872 John Fraser 7
Jan 20th 1875 John Fraser McHattie, Fife-Keith 1

GRAVES FOR CHILDREN IN FREE GROUND. 1879 - 1881
Feb 2nd 1880 James Fraser, Mid Street, Keith 1
Feb 23rd 1880 William Fraser, Den Cottage, Keith 10 mths

GRAVES FOR CHILDREN IN FREE GROUND. 1881 - 1883
Dec 3rd 1881 Gordon Fraser, Mid Street, Keith 3 mths

GRAVES FOR CHILDREN IN FREE GROUND. 1919 - 1922.
May 6th 1920 William Fraser (Still-born)
Jan 14th 1922 Jessie Fraser (Still-born)
May 19th 1922 Lizzie Fraser McGregor 7 wks

Steven
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: weeaza on Sunday 24 December 17 19:06 GMT (UK)
1885 Book. Burials Section.

Page 14. Lair (Section E2. No 2,3. James Cran, Manager of Fife-Keith Co-operative Company.)
Apr 6th 1918 Ann Fraser or Duncan 80

Page 46. Lair (Section X. No 14,15. James Fraser, Feuar, Newmill, Keith.)
Age
Depth of Grave
Number of Grave
Dec 10th 1886 William D. Fraser 15 5 ft 14 
Jun 1st 1901 Elspet Duncan or Fraser 71 5 ft 15 
Oct 14th 1913 James Fraser, Dufftown 88 5 ft 14

Page 106. Lair (Section W. No 19. Elspet Fraser or Jamison, Newmill, Keith.)
Age
Depth of Grave
Number of Grave
Mar 27th 1890 George Jamison 70 5 ft 19 
Mar 19th 1895 Elspet Fraser or Jamison 87 4 ft 19

Page 113. Lair (Section B2. No 14. Ann Fraser, Back Street, Keith.)
Age
Depth of Grave
Number of Grave
Stone
Aug 8th 1890 William Fraser 68 5 ft 14 
May 1st 1893 Isabella Collie or Fraser 67 4 ft 14 
Aug 14th 1926 Robert Fraser 61 5 ft 14

Page 122. Lair (Section A2. No 21,22. James Lobban, 11 Land Street, Keith.)
Age
Depth of Grave
Number of Grave
Stone
Jan 19th 1891 Eliza Lobban 15 5 ft 21 
Apr 14th 1928 William Lobban 63 5 ft 21 
May 1st 1928 Transferred to Mrs. Helen Fraser or Lobban, Queen's Hotel, Kirkwall.     
Jul 22nd 1941 Helen Fraser or Lobban 78 4 ft 21 

Page 146. Lair (Section C1. No 13,14. Burnet Laing, Feuar, Moss Street, Keith.)
Jan 14th 1907 Lily Laing or Fraser 36

Page 201. Lair (Section A1. No 8. Helen Raffan or Mills, 38 Duff Street, Fife-Keith.)
Age
Depth of Grave
Number of Grave
Stone
Jun 21st 1894 Margaret Fraser or Raffan 68 5 ft 8

Page 221. Lair (Section D2. No 4,5. Alexander Wood, Feuar, 25 Mid Street, Keith.)
Feb 26th 1897 Hugh Fraser 5 wks 3 ft 4 
Oct 21st 1903 Maggie Wood or Fraser 31 5 ft 5

Page 238. Lair (Section D2. No 3. Robert Fraser, Fisherman, 16 New Street, Buckie.)
Age
Depth of Grave
Number of Grave
Stone
Oct 13th 1896 John Fraser 58 5 ft 3 
Mar 17th 1906 Jane Mann or Fraser, Portsoy 69 4 ft 3 
Jul 4th 1921 James Fraser 16 5 ft 3 
Mar 2nd 1943 Barbara McDonald or Fraser 81 - 3 
Jun 29th 1952 John Fraser 78 3 ft 10 ins 3

Page 363. Lair (Section A1. No 5,6. Rev. Mathew Stewart, The Manse, Keith.) (Transferred 13th November, 1919 from page 148.)
Apr 21st 1923 Margaret L. Fraser or Stewart 30
Dec 11th 1986 Katherine Margaret Fraser Stewart, 25 Warrington Drive, Edinburgh. (Casket) 65

There are other people in most of these graves. If you want a full list of any particular one let me know.
I also have a map for the burials from the 1871 & 1885 books.
The burials from the 1829 book are in the old churchyard.

Steven :D
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: weeaza on Sunday 24 December 17 19:20 GMT (UK)
I've tried to attach a copy of the map but it is too big.
If you pm me your email address I'll send you a copy.

Steven :)
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: blackenbauer114 on Monday 25 December 17 16:54 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: sfoster on Tuesday 15 March 22 23:28 GMT (UK)
Hi there, I stumbled into this thread/forum and am hoping you might be able to help me as well. I'm trying to track down my great great great grandfather's burial information, which I believe is in the Old Keith Cemetery. His name was William Burgess (1819-1892) and he was married to Margaret Ann Hendry (1825-1893). They had ten children and several lived their whole lives I believe in Keith. By any chance can you confirm that this is where they are buried? Are there other Burgess or Hendry names there as well?  Thank you so much for any input you can offer!
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 16 March 22 18:54 GMT (UK)
William Burgess was the brother of my great-great-grandfather. I have a lot of information about the family.

Once you have made 3 posts on the forum we will be able to contact one another direct to exchange notes.

William and Margaret Ann are indeed in Keith Old Cemetery, and so are their children Isabella, Catherine, Elspet, and Elizabeth. Jane and Anna are in Broomhill Cemetery, Keith. Alexander and William are in Woodlawn Cemetery, New York. Helen and Margaret are also in America but I don't know where.
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: weeaza on Wednesday 16 March 22 23:31 GMT (UK)
Keith Old Cemetery
Burial Book started in 1885

Page 74. Lair (Section S. No 17, 18 & 19). William Burgess , Crofter, Cotterton,
Keith. (No 19 made out in name of Widow Burgess, Fife-Keith.)
Oct 30th 1940 Railing removed by permission of Mr. Robertson.

Date of Burial.                              Age

Jul 27th 1888 Alexander Burgess 60 
Jul        1888 Henry Burgess 1 
Feb 22nd 1892 William Burgess
Mar 21st 1893 Margaret Ann Hendry or Burgess.
     
Nov 26th 1902
Transferred to Mrs. Elizabeth Burgess or Robertson, 141 Moss Street, Keith.
Section S, No 17,18.

Nov 28th 1902 Henry Mitchell Robertson 3 mths 
Apr 11th 1930 Ann Gauld or Robertson 79 
Oct 11th 1941 Elizabeth Burgess or Robertson 81 
Oct 9th 1942 James Robertson  83
 
Mar 9th 1943
Transferred to James Donald Robertson. Manager , 20 Polworth Crescent, Brunton
Park, Newcastle-on-Tyne. (Lairs No 17,18)

Transferred to Mrs. Margaret Burgess or Machattie, Household Duties, 13 Mid Street, Keith. (Lair no.19)

Sep 11th 1953 Alexander Milton, 13 Mid Street 59
Jun 15th 1966 James D. Robertson (Casket)

Steven
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: weeaza on Wednesday 16 March 22 23:57 GMT (UK)
There are some other Burgess and Hendry burials in here.
I'll have a better look tomorrow and post what I find.

Steven
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: sfoster on Thursday 17 March 22 00:18 GMT (UK)
Steven and Forfarian, this is amazing! Thank you so much! Forfarian mentioned several of the Burgess family (children of William and Margaret's) in the reply below... I don't want you to double up on time spent.  I would be curious if John Burgess (1798-1871) and/or Elspet Young Burgess (1796-1838) are there as well... it looks like John also died in Keith. He was William's father.  I really appreciate the information. It makes me realize how small the world is :) 
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: Forfarian on Thursday 17 March 22 08:08 GMT (UK)
Steven, this is my family and I have all that information about them and more, including every available birth/baptism, banns/marriage, death/burial and census record.

You are more than welcome to look it all up, and it's very kind of you to do so, but be please be aware that any information you look up about Burgess and related families in Keith and vicinity will duplicate what I have already done.


Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: Forfarian on Thursday 17 March 22 08:30 GMT (UK)
This is an extract from my notes about Elspet Young:

When exactly did Elspet Young die? The Keith burial records say 8 March 1837 but this is impossible as her youngest child was born on 27 July 1837. So is this a different Elspet Young, or an error in the Keith parish register?

John Burgess and Isabella Ingram were summoned before the Kirk Session in October 1838, and on 21 October 1838 the Kirk Session decided to await the birth of their child to see whether it was a case of adultery (as opposed to the lesser sin of fornication). So Elspet must have been alive at least nine months before 21 October 1838, therefore she must have been alive in January 1838.

John and Isabella's son George was listed as aged 3 on 6 June 1841. If accurate, this would place his date of birth as between 7 June 1837 and 6 June 1838. This is inconsistent with the Kirk Session record. In 1851 and 1871 his age implies a birth in 1837/1838. However in 1861 he is listed as aged 22, which would give a birth date between 8 April 1838 and 7 April 1839.


I have not found any record of the burial of my great-great-great-grandfather John Burgess, but he has to be in Keith Old Cemetery because in 1871 it was the only burial ground in Keith, where he had lived most of his life.
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: Cfraser1595 on Monday 24 July 23 04:49 BST (UK)
Hello. Hope all is well. I am a direct descendant from James fraser and Sarah Taylor. Most of family members in the burial plot was able to connect, however I have been stuck on family members that I can’t find the connection to the Fraser’s. A big help is needed. Names are bellow:

James cameron
Anne Asher
Donald McIver
Ann McKay
Robert Paterson
Robert Allen
James Carmichael Fraser
Jane Alexander
Duncan Martin
Charles Stuart

Chris Fraser

Page 237. Name: John Fraser. Section Number on Plan 212. Extent of Ground on West side 6 feet 3 inches, on East side two lengths 5 feet 0 inches. 
Age
Depth of Grave
Number of Grave
Stone

Date of Burial
Dec 18th 1834 Sarah Taylor   3 W side 
Dec 23rd 1834 Margaret Fraser   3 W side 
Apr 25th 1835 James Cameron a child   1 E side 
Jun 20th 1838 Ann Asher   1 E side 
Apr 21st 1840 Thomas Fraser   2 W side 
Feb 16th 1842 Donald McIver   2 E side 
Mar 21st 1842 Ann McKay   2 E side 
Jan 5th 1843 Robert Paterson   1 W side 
Feb 17th 1845 Robert Allan   1 E side 
Jun 29th 1846 John Fraser Snr   3 W side 
Jul 27th 1847 John Fraser a boy   2 W side 
Feb 4th 1848 James Carmichael Fraser   1 E side 
Oct 4th 1853 Ann Fraser   3 W side 
Jan 13th 1855 Mary Gordon Fraser   1 W side 
Feb 5th 1855 Raffan a child   1 E side 
Dec 28th 1855 Fraser a child   3 W side 
Jun 25th 1856 Alexander Fraser a boy   1 W side 
Sep 5th 1856 John Gauld a boy   2 W side 
Jan 15th 1861 Jane Alexander a child   1 East 
Jul 30th 1863 Hellen Smith Fraser a girl   2 West 
Sep 29th 1864 Duncan Martin a child   2 East 
Oct 13th 1864 Jane Fraser or Murdoch   3 West 
Dec 6th 1865 Hendry a child   1 East 
Feb 21st 1867 Isobel Fraser   1 West 
Mar 20th 1868 Green a child   2 West 
Oct 19th 1870 Charles Stuart a child   2 East 
Apr 23rd 1872 Helen Fraser   1 East 
Feb 25th 1873 Margaret Monk or Fraser   2 East 
Jan 7th 1874 Janet Fraser or McKay   3 W side 
Mar 25th 1874 John Fraser Simpson a child   3 W side 
Sep 20th 1875 James Fraser   2 W side 
Nov 16th 1875 Jane Fraser a child   2 W side 
Mar 24th 1877 John Fraser, Fife-Keith   1 W side 
Jan 15th 1879 Helen Smith or Fraser   1 W side 
May 28th 1879 Jessie Gauld   1 E side 
Jan 25th 1881 Alexander Gauld   2 E side 
Mar 13th 1883 John Fraser, Moss Street, Keith   2 W side 
Feb 14th 1905 William Fraser, Keith   2 W side 
Dec 29th 1905 May Grant or Fraser   3 West 
Apr 2nd 1907 Jas Fraser Moush   1 West 
Nov 18th 1908 Jane Fraser Gauld   1 East 
Mar 1st 1917 Jessie Fraser or Mann  4 ft 2 East 
Aug 16th 1917 Harry James Edward a child  3 ft 1 West 
May 4th 1922 William Mann  4 ft 1 East 
Dec 21st 1936 Margaret Taylor or Fraser 74 4 ft 2 West 
Dec 8th 1956 Catherine F. Ingram 59  1 West 
Feb 20th 2004 Kathleen Mary Ingram, Ashburton, New Zealand  Ashes   

Steven
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Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 24 July 23 22:49 BST (UK)
Hello. Hope all is well. I am a direct descendant from James fraser and Sarah Taylor.
Which of their children are you descended from?

Because their daughter-in-law Anne Knight (1829-1898), wife of their son William Fraser (1830/1-1908) was my second cousin 3 times removed.
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: Cfraser1595 on Monday 24 July 23 23:26 BST (UK)
Hello. So my direct line is from gg-grandfather James Fraser (brother to William Fraser who married Anne Knight) married Helen Tough. 3rd great James Fraser married Sarah Taylor.

Chris fraser
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 25 July 23 20:28 BST (UK)
Ah. So we are connected but not related.

William F and Anne K emigrated to New Zealand in 1861 with their three surviving children, and settled in Christchurch. They had five more children there, only one of whom survived to adulthood.
Title: Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Post by: Cfraser1595 on Tuesday 25 July 23 22:37 BST (UK)
Hello. So my direct line is from gg-grandfather James Fraser (brother to William Fraser who married Anne Knight) married Helen Tough. 3rd great James Fraser married Sarah Taylor.

Chris fraser