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Title: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: ainslie on Wednesday 06 December 17 11:24 GMT (UK)
Susan Freeman was born at Uxbridge in 1839 and baptised at St Mary's, third child of William and Margaret.  In the 1961 census she was an 'attendant in wards' at  Middlesex County Asylum, Colney Hatch -several of her wider family were in similar occupations.
In the 1871 census her mother Margaret [Margt] was at Kings Road, Islington, with a daughter Susan, but the daughter was entered as surname Rhoades, as married, occupation 'insanity attendant', which seems to make it clear that this is the same person.
I have found no marriage for Susan, with Rhoades or Rhodes, and cannot find her under either surname in 1881, or in death records.
Can any kind person suggest a solution?

Ainslie
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 06 December 17 15:24 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage 3 January 1877 Pendelton St Thomas Lancashire
Susan Rhoades 37 widow father William Freeman deceased
Ross Smith age 61 widower

Rosie
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 06 December 17 15:28 GMT (UK)
Do you have her mother in census after 1871.  Where was her mother Margaret born & when
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 06 December 17 15:35 GMT (UK)
Marriage in Bermondsey, May 17 1869

James Rhoades married a widow Susan Harvey, her father shown as George Freeman deceased. One of the witnesses was William Westbrook Freeman - - is that Susan's brother?
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 06 December 17 15:38 GMT (UK)
Susan Freeman (father William) married Henry Harvey at Chepping Wycombe, 11 April 1858.
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: ainslie on Wednesday 06 December 17 16:01 GMT (UK)
SEan
I am sure you have cracked it!
WW Freeman was indeed her brother.  Very many thanks for solving an old niggly one.
A
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 06 December 17 16:03 GMT (UK)
Excellent finds Shaun  :)
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 06 December 17 16:59 GMT (UK)
LAN-OPC has a a bit more information on that 1877 Pendleton marriage found by Rosie17:


Ross Smith - 61, Watchman, Widower, Millom, Cumberland
Susan Frances Rhodes - 37, Widow, 7 Hankinson St.
    Groom's Father: Thomas Smith, (deceased)
    Bride's Father: William Freeman, (deceased)
    Witness: John Hindle; Clara Brookes
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 06 December 17 17:04 GMT (UK)
There's also a marriage on 10 December 1876 in Millom, Cumberland

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXVF-D88
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: ainslie on Wednesday 06 December 17 17:09 GMT (UK)
Rosie
I did not mean to ignore your suggestions, but when I clicked on the email notification it took me straight to Shaun's mesages and I did not see yours until just now.  Thanks anyway.
Shaun - sorry I misspelled your name in the excitement of finding the solution.
Ainslie
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 06 December 17 17:14 GMT (UK)
Sorry Rosie17  I should have included you in this too.  Well done for finding that marriage
 
Excellent finds Shaun  :)
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: ainslie on Wednesday 06 December 17 17:51 GMT (UK)
Very grateful for all support.  Now to find what happened to James and Susan Rhoades...
A
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 06 December 17 18:44 GMT (UK)
Sorry Rosie17  I should have included you in this too.  Well done for finding that marriage
 
Excellent finds Shaun  :)


 :) :)
Title: Re: Susan Freeman or Rhoades, mystery of marriage
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 06 December 17 18:44 GMT (UK)
Rosie
I did not mean to ignore your suggestions, but when I clicked on the email notification it took me straight to Shaun's mesages and I did not see yours until just now.  Thanks anyway.
Shaun - sorry I misspelled your name in the excitement of finding the solution.
Ainslie

 :) :)