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Title: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: rot1927 on Wednesday 06 December 17 12:07 GMT (UK)

hi everyone..  I am trying to trace my great grandmother's past, her name was Harriet or Harriot Gray  and was married to my great grandfather Joseph Brocklesby.  she was born 1853/54 fathers name was James.

they were married in Wrangle, Lincolnshire, 1877.
if anyone could help me, It would be greatly appreciated..  as I seem to have hit a brick wall!


thanks.

Title: Re: help with family name.
Post by: mazi on Wednesday 06 December 17 12:23 GMT (UK)

Just to give an idea of where we are looking the marriage was in Wrangle Lincolnshire 8 feb1877.
Joseph Brocklesby and Harriet Gray.

Mike

Title: Re: help with family name.
Post by: mazi on Wednesday 06 December 17 12:27 GMT (UK)

You may have the marriage certificate, but if not, its registered in Boston district. 7a 554.


I forgot to say.      Welcome to rootschat

Title: Re: help with family name.
Post by: mazi on Wednesday 06 December 17 12:34 GMT (UK)

I see you have added the location ;D ;D,
I think this might be better on the Lincolnshire board, if you wish you can click on. report to moderator and ask for it to be moved.

Mike

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 06 December 17 12:41 GMT (UK)

Could this be Harriet in 1861?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M71V-5P3

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: ciderdrinker on Wednesday 06 December 17 12:42 GMT (UK)

Hi
It looks like she lied about her age on the marriage certificate.The 1891 census gives her as born 1856 Cranwell.
This is them 1871 at Cranwell
James Gray 48 lab Cranwell
Ann  46 Sleaford
Harriet 14 employed on farm Cranwell
Ruth 7
Thomas 5
Charlotte 3

Bapt 7/6/1857 at Cranwell. Looks like mother's maiden name is Ellis

Beat me to it Garrard!

Ciderdrinker

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: rot1927 on Wednesday 06 December 17 12:49 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the welcome and help Mazi,

wow ciderdrinker... that's quick.. brilliant, thank you.

I live in Yorkshire and have been to local library, they don not hold anything like parish records.

will people in Lincolnshire area be able to see this post?

thanks for your help.

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: rot1927 on Wednesday 06 December 17 12:55 GMT (UK)

thank you kgarrard.. I have taken all the details you posted, thank you so much.

thanks everyone for the quick response..

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: mazi on Wednesday 06 December 17 13:19 GMT (UK)

You may find this site useful for Lincolnshire

https://www.lincstothepast.com/help/about-lincs-to-the-past/311.article

My Lincolnshire knowledge is almost zero :) :) :)

Yes Lincolnshire people can see these posts, but may not notice them, I think you have 24 hours to modify your title, if you just add lincolnshire to the title it will be seen

Mike

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: rot1927 on Wednesday 06 December 17 13:25 GMT (UK)

Thanks Mazi,

I will ask to get moved to Lincolnshire Boards.   :)

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: larkspur on Wednesday 06 December 17 13:59 GMT (UK)

Lincs to the Past sadly does not yet cover the required date for Cranwell baptisms.

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: rot1927 on Wednesday 06 December 17 14:04 GMT (UK)

Thank slarkspur,

will have a dig around Lincolnshire anyway :)

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: JSHD2011 on Wednesday 06 December 17 14:15 GMT (UK)

One theory on the name Gray/Grey is that it is a contraction of the old french for Chalk being Crai.   Chalk mining was big business back in the day so post 1066 the Norman de Gray family took land in the areas of UK where there was chalk.    There is a Grays court in Rotherfield, Oxfordshire near Bix. There is also a link with Uffington and Kingston L'isle because the de Gray family and the de L'Ilse family were linked.

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: Geoff-E on Thursday 07 December 17 11:28 GMT (UK)

FreeREG has only burials of GRAYs at Cranwell https://www.freereg.org.uk/

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: rot1927 on Thursday 07 December 17 21:00 GMT (UK)

thanks for the reply:
JSHD2011
GEOFF-E

I can not find a death date for Harriet  Brocklesby nee Gray, Her husband Joseph died when he was about 40ish so I don't know if she moved away after he died and possibly re-married.

 :)

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: Geoff-E on Thursday 07 December 17 21:10 GMT (UK)

There was the death of a Harriet BROCKLESBY (83) in 1941, Boston district.

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: rot1927 on Friday 08 December 17 11:35 GMT (UK)

Thanks Geoff-E
I could not find anything, I will try and find the one you have mentioned.

thanks again.

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: Geoff-E on Friday 08 December 17 11:57 GMT (UK)

The burial register is here (2nd one on the left)

https://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=621237&iid=299267

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: rot1927 on Friday 08 December 17 12:09 GMT (UK)

Geoff-E..  that's great thank you for the info..   I wish I could get around things as well as you.
not very savvy I guess.


 :)

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: Floozy on Thursday 11 January 18 13:22 GMT (UK)

After the discussion  tonight i found something,  that might be relevent. You mentioned James had a brother Thomas I think? I keyed it into my Tablet  ancestry and found a Thomas born 1821 Cranwell,  mother Mary born late 1700s from Ireland. Need to find it again. Regards  Floozy

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: Floozy on Thursday 11 January 18 14:15 GMT (UK)

Ok I have a  hunch may be wrong,  I found  a birth for Thomas 1820 and a birth for James 1823 to a Thomas and Mary  Gray

Possible census Thomas Unmarried  with his widowed Mum  1861

If its her she was born  Ireland.  Could be Mary Bunning

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: BillyF on Thursday 11 January 18 19:09 GMT (UK)

Just to add this to the mix !!  On FreeReg there is a burial for a Mary Gray at St Andrew`s Church Cranwell on the 11th July 1870, she was 75, her abode Cranwell.

There is, also at Cranwell, a burial for a Thomas Gray on the 8th February 1841 age 66.

Title: Re: help with family name. "Gray".
Post by: rot1927 on Thursday 26 April 18 08:28 BST (UK)

Hi,

Thanks Floozy, BillyF.  Have been investigating other lines, thanks for the info.