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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: kjmck on Friday 08 December 17 20:25 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I am looking find the maiden name of the above George Robinson's mother.
George married Mary Howard Arnold on 1st June 1879 in Sedgley, & he died 1899 in Dudley.
On the 1861 - 1891 census returns, he is recorded to have been born either in 1855 or 1856 in Tipton.
His father's name was John & his mother's was Harriet.
His siblings were - Ellen (1849), John Thomas (1852), David (1857), William (1860), & James (1864).
Keelan
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I think they may have been born/registered as Rubbathan.
GRO Births:
RUBBATHAN, JOHN THOMAS mmnGRIFFIN
1851 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 349
RUBBATHAN, DAVID mmnGRIFFIN
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 36
RUBBATHAN, GEORGE GRIFFIN
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 35
Maureen
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There is a marriage on FreeBMD
Dec Qtr 1846 in Dudley
Harriet GRIFFIN on the same page as John RUBBATHAM
Chris
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On the 1871 census on there is an entry on the next page to John and Harriet of John Rubbatham who is shown as father in law to Thomas Jukes and his wife Charlotte
Chris
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Rubbatham/Rubbathan ???
I don't know how that translates to Robinson. Maybe one of them had a lisp! As stupid as that sounds.
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On the 1871 census on there is an entry on the next page to John and Harriet of John Rubbatham who is shown as father in law to Thomas Jukes and his wife Charlotte
Chris
Possibly this couple married as Thomas Jukes to Charlotte ROBOTHAM June qtr 1863 Dudley 6c 42
Keyboard86
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It's just confusing isn't it. If in 1871 they are only living a few houses away from each other, why do they have different surnames.
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Hi confusing indeed, in 1851 census:-
John RUBATHAN 27
Harriot 27
Phoebe Mary 3
Ellen Olive 1
Residing Dudley Road, Tipton
Birth registration via GRO Index Phebe Mary ROBINSON Sept qtr 1847 Dudley v18 311 mmn Griffin
Ellen Olive ROBINSON Sept qtr 1849 Dudley v18 342 mmn Griffin
Keyboard86
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I have found more children for John & Harriet.
It just seems that they pick and choose when to use Robinson and when to use Rubathan.
1891
Name: Harriet Robinson
Gender: Female
Age: 66
Relationship: Mother
Birth Year: 1825
Child: James Robinson
Birth Place: Wadsley, Worcestershire, England
[Wordsley, Worcestershire, England]
1901
NAME: Harriet Rubathan
AGE: 77
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: 1824
RELATION TO HEAD: Mother-in-law
GENDER: Female
BIRTH PLACE: Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England
CIVIL PARISH: Tipton
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Matthew
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Hi is that not the James b 1864 you reported, his birth was registered as James RUBBATHAN June qtr 1864 Dudley v6c 50 mmn Griffin
William RUBBATHAN March qtr 1860 Dudley 6c 51 mmn Griffin
Keyboard86
PS so what were the extra children you located?
1901 looks like the Phoebe Mary I located with Harriett in 1851?
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Yeah it's more than likely that James. It's just odd how one census they can be Robinson's and then the next they are Rubathan's or whatever spelling variation they are using.
ROBINSON, PHEBE MARY GRIFFIN Order
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 311
RUBBATHAN, ROSENA GRIFFIN Order
GRO Reference: 1853 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 40
RUBBATHAN, HERBERT GRIFFIN Order
GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 63
RUBBATHAN, JAMES ROBERT GRIFFIN Order
GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 50