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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Westmorland => Topic started by: andrewalston on Saturday 09 December 17 17:50 GMT (UK)
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Mark Thompson claimed to be 45 and a brewer when he spent census night 1861 in hospital (RG9/2954 fol32 p9).
The county of birth is obviously Westmorland (and the 1871 says just "Westmorland" too), but the enumerator seems to have taken handwriting lessons from one of the doctors, and my decoding of the place gets me the name of a village just north of Whitehaven.
Can anyone make better sense of it?
Unfortunately his 1851 entry seems lost to water damage, and he died before 1881, so I don't have much else to go on.
His marriage was at Daresbury in Cheshire just before civil registration started to a girl from Preston Brook, so the family might have had a link to canals or railways, but by 1841 the family was in Manchester and he was a warehouseman.
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stealeybridge?
still attempting to read it :)
xin
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It could be Parton, if I'm looking at the correct one, the last entry I think.
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Could be :) heres an idea of where it is now.
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OH I got the wrong one then.. sorry
xin :D
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Upper Denton is nr Westmoreland.
I am going now..
xin :( ::) ::) ::) ::) :-[
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Parton for me too - but in Cumberland.
The D in Dublin is different from the first letter in this one, xin :-\
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Parton for me, it's near Whitehaven :)
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Parton for me to ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parton,_Cumbria
Sandra
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There are Preston and Barton in Westmoreland
Jennifer
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Could it be Patton which is near Kendal Westmorland (not certain but I think its full title is Patton Bridge)
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When I decode it I end up with Parton too, but the only one I know is just north of Whitehaven.
I was hoping that someone might know of some out-of-the-way Westmorland version.
To add to the problem, the census info would have gone through hospital staff as well as the enumerator, so another chance of error.
The IGI shows people of the right name baptised at Cliburn and Brampton in the right period. I think it's time to check the large-scale maps.
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Good afternoon,
I would say another case of the enumerator mishearing what is said, it happened frequently. It certainly looks like Parton which was in Cumberland. But I think it is meant to be Barton which was in Westmoreland.
Both now of course in Cumbria since 1974 when the two were joined along with small portions of Lancashire and Yorkshire to form the new county.
Quite an easy mistake given the similarity in the sound of the two names, particularly if the speaker has a broad accent.
John915
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That would figure, John, as he was in hospital and the form (institution/household schedule) would be filled in by one of the staff. Unfortunately, Barton seems to be equidistant between Cliburn and Bampton, where Andrew found the possible baptisms :-\
Gadget
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If it is of help, Patton Bridge (in Patton chapelry), is in former Westmorland at Google Maps Code 54.370022, -2.682891.
I was brought up nearby :)