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Hi, Does anyone know the ancestors of Thomas Baldock born 1792 at Salehurst, Sussex ? His wife was Hannah Drury born at Salehurst c1796. Hannah was christened 18 Nov 1798 at Salehurst, Sussex. The couple married circa 12 April 1817 at St Mary the Virgin, Salehurst, Sussex. They had 7 known children: Mary Ann Baldock 1817-1896, James Baldock 1821-c1891, Samuel Baldock 1827/1829- 1876, George Baldock 1833- , Elizabeth Baldock 1829- , John Hope Baldock 1832- , and Georgina Hope Baldock 1834- .
Hannah’s parents were Edward Drury 1756-nk and Mary Bunce 1760-1841. Hannah probably died June 1851 age 55, reg at Ticehurst (vol 7-363). Most of her siblings are recorded and known.
Although I would love to know more about any of these ancestors, my main interest is in linking Thomas Baldock 1792 to any of the other prolific Baldock families living nearby in Wadhurst, Ticehurst and Burwash. There must be a link between the Salehurst Baldocks and the other East Sussex Baldocks. Does anyone know what that link is? Finding the parents of Thomas Baldock would appear to be the clue. Can anyone help.
Thanks. Yehan.
Thomas Baldock is my x3 great grandfather.
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I can't find anything in Salehurst but there was a Thomas Baldock baptised about 4 km away in Burwash 30 Sep 1792, parents William and Sarah.
Emeltom
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12 April 1817 at St Mary the Virgin, Salehurst, Sussex
Thomas Baldock was a widower.
Hannah Drury a single woman.
Both of the parish
by Banns
witnesses John Martin and John Heathfield (regular)
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Mary Ann Baldock 1817
Baptized at Salehurst, 14th September 1817
Mary Ann
Dr of Thomas + Hannah Baldock
abode Hurst Green
father a Bricklayer
born 5th August
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Thomas Baldock was a widower.
Maybe....
Baptism at Salehurst, 27th August 1815
Thomas
Son of Thomas + Frances Baldock
abode Hurst Green
father a Bricklayer
(age) 6 weeks
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Ah, the marriage for Thomas and Frances was probably in Salehurst in 1806
Thomas Baldock + Frances Chainey, 12 November
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Well Hannah is in Hurst Green, Salehurst, in 1841, with her children. Looks like not all of them were by her husband Thomas.
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This could be his burial at Salehurst
13 February 1829
Thomas Baldock
abode Hurst Green
age 45
Which would put his birth back to 1783/4
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John Hope Baldock 1832-
Well the parish register says that he was the son of Hannah Baldock, Single woman
Abode Hurst Green
Baptized 12 August 1832
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Georgina Hope Baldock 1834-
Baptized 4 May 1834, at Salehurst
Base daughter of Hannah Baldock
abode Hurst Green
Widow
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Burial of wife number 1 at Salehurst in 1815
Frances Baldock
abode Hurst Green
buried 18 Decr
age 30 yrs
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Ah, the marriage for Thomas and Frances was probably in Salehurst in 1806
Thomas Baldock + Frances Chainey, 12 November
He was a bachelor on that one! And Frances was a single woman.
Both of the parish
by Banns
witnessed by William Chainey (X), and, guess who, John Heathfield
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Hannah probably died June 1851 age 55, reg at Ticehurst (vol 7-363).
That one is not buried at Salehurst.
There is a Hannah buried there a few years later in 1854
Hannah Baldock
abode Hurst Green
buried Febry 5
age 55
In the GRO death indexes
March qtr 1854 Ticehurst 2b 55
Baldock, Hanah
age 55
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They feature in the Salehurst "Paupers Ledgers". All the payments!
1824 (-1828)
Thomas Baldock
Bricklayer
Hurst Green
children
Mary Ann 6 (in 1824)
James 3
Philly 0
Their ages each year are noted
and so Samuel joins the list in 1827
His wife was ill in 1824
1828 (-1830)
Thos Baldock
Died 8 Feby 1829
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Wd Baldock
Elizabeth joins the list of children in 1830
1830 (-1833)
Widow Baldock, 30
Hurst Green
John Hope was added to the list of children in 1833
+ Infant 3 April 1834
Got cash for clothes, 25 Oct 1833, Mary Ann was going into service in Hastings (Mr Foster?)
Wonderful stuff!
John
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The paupers ledger says that Philly died 16 Decr 1828
Here's her burial at Salehurst
Philadelphia Baldock
abode Hurst Green
buried December 20th
age 4
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Jonw65 Thank you for that info.
There are several Hannah Baldocks about that time. It is difficult to distinguish them.
I agree with you. The Sussex Parish Registers confirm that a Hannah Baldock was buried at Salehurst in 1854, which makes her born circa 1799, which is close to her christening date of 1798. There is a difference in spelling her name, with the parish registers recording a double n, and the EW BMD suggesting there was only a single n. Nevertheless probably the same and right person.
The Hannah Baldock who died in 1851 reg Ticehurst vol 7-363 appears to have been only 1 year of age, so she is not our Hannah. Clearly that was an error on my part. Grateful to you for pointing it out.
Hannah Baldock probably died between 1851-61 because she appears in the 1851 Census residing at Hurst Green, but is absent from the 1861 census. The 1851 census says…
Hannah Baldock 51 married Laundress b. Salehurst
Samuel Baldock 24 son single Gardener b Salehurst
Georgina Hope Baldock 16 daughter single b. Salehurst
The remaining children have the right names so it is definitely her. Her husband Thomas Baldock is missing and he was also missing in the 1841 census. Does anyone know what happened to him?
Yehan
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Thanks John
I have just seen your info… Thos Baldock died 8 Feby 1829. That explains why I couldn’t find him… Thos instead of Thomas.
Re: John Hope Baldock and Georgina Hope Baldock… The base born children with the Hope middle name may have been the offspring of one of the members of the Hope family who lived close nearby in Salehurst during that decade. Of course it could just be an aspiring name with which to christen children? The Baldocks have some form christening their children with neighbour’s surnames, because in the next generation a Henry Tolhurst Baldock 1860-1943 is named after a friendly neighbouring family, the Tolhursts.
Yehan
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Thanks Emeltom for the info re "Thomas Baldock baptised in Burwash 30 Sep 1792, parents William and Sarah". The year is right. Great ! I will explore that inter-village link with interest. There were also a significant number of Baldcock families living in Wadhurst, over several lifetimes, that is another inter-village connection worth exploring.
Thanks John for all the info from the Salehurst "Paupers Ledgers", brilliant !
Yehan