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Title: Help with mystery re Collow, Laurie, Black and Borthwick familys
Post by: Grameka on Sunday 10 December 17 15:05 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Help with mystery re Collow, Laurie, Black and Borthwick familys
Post by: themonkeymonkey on Sunday 10 December 17 15:26 GMT (UK)
Agnes was born 21st March 1868 at Dolgonar, Penpont, her father William was the informant of her birth.
Title: Re: Help with mystery re Collow, Laurie, Black and Borthwick familys
Post by: LizzieL on Sunday 10 December 17 15:27 GMT (UK)
From familysearch
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Margaret
birth: 4 September 1828
christening: 22 September 1828
MINNYHIVE OR MONIAIVE UNITED PRESBYTERIAN, GLENCAIRN, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
residence: 1828 Glencairn, Dumfries, Scotland
father John Laurie, mother Agness Kerr
Title: Re: Help with mystery re Collow, Laurie, Black and Borthwick familys
Post by: JJen on Sunday 10 December 17 15:29 GMT (UK)
Agnes Borthwick is recorded as being illegitimate and born at Dalgonar, Penpont.

William Borthwick's occupation  - Shepherd

JJ
Title: Re: Help with mystery re Collow, Laurie, Black and Borthwick familys
Post by: Grameka on Sunday 10 December 17 15:33 GMT (UK)
Quote from: LizzieL on Sunday 10 December 17 15:27 GMT (UK)
From familysearch
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Margaret
birth: 4 September 1828
christening: 22 September 1828
MINNYHIVE OR MONIAIVE UNITED PRESBYTERIAN, GLENCAIRN, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
residence: 1828 Glencairn, Dumfries, Scotland
father John Laurie, mother Agness Kerr

I'm confident this is her family, and think I may have found a 'Black' connection. Thanks for the second opinion.
Title: Re: Help with mystery re Collow, Laurie, Black and Borthwick familys
Post by: Grameka on Sunday 10 December 17 15:34 GMT (UK)
Quote from: JJen on Sunday 10 December 17 15:29 GMT (UK)
Agnes Borthwick is recorded as being illegitimate and born at Dalgonar, Penpont.

William Borthwick's occupation  - Shepherd

JJ

Thank you! Where is this record. Does it mean William registered the birth without the mother?
Title: Re: Help with mystery re Collow, Laurie, Black and Borthwick familys
Post by: JJen on Sunday 10 December 17 15:38 GMT (UK)
Agnes' birth record is availble on Scotlands People.

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JJ
Title: Re: Help with mystery re Collow, Laurie, Black and Borthwick familys
Post by: Grameka on Sunday 10 December 17 15:40 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Help with mystery re Collow, Laurie, Black and Borthwick familys
Post by: LizzieL on Sunday 10 December 17 15:46 GMT (UK)
How did Margaret get to conceive Agnes if she had been admitted to an asylum 2 - 3 years earlier?
Title: Re: Help with mystery re Collow, Laurie, Black and Borthwick familys
Post by: Grameka on Sunday 10 December 17 15:49 GMT (UK)
Quote from: LizzieL on Sunday 10 December 17 15:46 GMT (UK)
How did Margaret get to conceive Agnes if she had been admitted to an asylum 2 - 3 years earlier?

I think that is the real question. I really need to pinpoint him. Maybe he was another patient? Or maybe working close by? I'm in the process of trawling the records of the asylum - nothing pointing to any births there yet. But they are vast...
Title: Re: Help with mystery re Collow, Laurie, Black and Borthwick familys
Post by: Amber1867 on Thursday 08 February 18 23:47 GMT (UK)
I'm researching the Laurie's from the area. Anything I can help with?