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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Essex => England => Essex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: chars01 on Monday 11 December 17 20:47 GMT (UK)
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Hi im trying to research my great grandfather Thomas Edward Hare born in 1900 or 1901 he eventually came to New Zealand. Im new to geneology and finding UK records quite hard to search I think he may have been a navy merchant and think he was born in West Ham. Does anyone know some links i could try to follow? Noone in the family knew or spoke about him so we dont really have any other information.
Thanks
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This looks like his birth from free bmd:
Births March quarter 1901
Thomas Edward Hare W. Ham 4a 154
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/
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This record from the GRO shows his Mother's maiden name as Whiteman
Thomas Edward Hare mmn Whiteman
GRO Reference: 1901 March Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 154
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
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FamilySearch.org is another good, free, site.
From there, 1901 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9NC-WW8
and, 1911:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWF3-9H8
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Also a potential emigration to Seattle, USA?
He was a Fireman on the SS Waihemo, arriving at Seattle from Sydney, 23rd May 1933.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDZZ-WPK
Engaged 31 March 1933 at Auckland.
Age 32; 15 year's service
Tattoos both arms?
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However, there are several trees on Ancestry that show Thomas Edward Hare marrying Mary McNamara in Whitechapel in 1922, and then dying in Leytonstone in 1966. (Including pictures of his grave)
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Have you got his death certificate for some useful information?
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Thank you so much everyone for all the information. He married my great grandmother Ethel around 1930s, we think he may have died in the mental hospital around 1968 however the files are restricted so we are in the process to see if we can view them. We do know he did work on boats my grandmother thinks he was a navy merchant in england i cant seem to find where i need to search for info on that.
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However, there are several trees on Ancestry that show Thomas Edward Hare marrying Mary McNamara in Whitechapel in 1922, and then dying in Leytonstone in 1966. (Including pictures of his grave)
The age on death better fits the Thomas Edward Hare registered June 1899, Mile End
And free index to 1939 Register says born 1899
Findmypast may be the place to look, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
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(I was just about to suggest that 1899 birth for the death in 1966 - as another tree claims that man.
You would think if they can get a photo of the grave they could get the correct birth.)
Do you belong to Ancestry, as that has many records including height and weight at one point?
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Hi thank you. he passed away in NZ in 1968 i think it was. he was divorced from Ethel Daisy in 1958 after many years of being in and out of the Whau lunatic asylum. Yes thanks we got his burial records he was buried here in NZ in a cemetery not far from me so will check it out in the weekend
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In 1933, height 5' 6", weight 147lbs, tattoo on both arms. 15 years service, a fireman on the ship, arriving into Seattle, ship originally from Sydney.
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Thank you very much, when it said mothers maiden name was whiteman did it have father and mothers first names? when i click on the gro link it takes me to a home page.
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No, it does not have Parents' first names - you need to get the actual birth certificate for that information.
OR, you can look on free bmd for a possible Hare/Whiteman marriage.
As the surnames are not too common, you hope that you get very few possible marriages, and one in 1900 in West Ham does look a strong contender.
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Just putting his marriage information:
Thomas Edward Hare married in 1927 in New Zealand to Ethel Daisy Jeffery
Folio Number: 3688
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Oh thank you very much I will have a look into the bdm site. Thank you guys for your help. Super new at this and so many different places to look
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To use the GRO site, first you have to register.
After that, it's free to search the indexes, once you have logged on.
The other website is FreeBMD (not BDM! :D).
In the UK we do things chronologically: Birth, Marriage, Death ;D
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Thank you very much. Did the UK have a departures list at all?
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Passenger Lists are available on Ancestry and FindMyPast.
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Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
Two CR10 cards for Thomas Edward Hare
Born 22.12.1900
next of kin Thomas William Hare (father) 172 Victoria Dk Rd E16 (circa 1918)
Both have photos
According to The Surname Society's Church Marriage Finder, Thomas Hare married Ada Whiteman at
St Luke, Victoria Docks (June qtr 1900).
John
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Thank you so much for that info :)