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Title: Mander of Dudley 1811 baptism help?
Post by: sbunter on Thursday 14 December 17 12:17 GMT (UK)
I believe that Daniel Mander (baptised 10 Feb 1811 at Dudley mother Sarah) was my ancestor who went to Bury in Lancashire and married there. Also in Bury was a Zachariah Mander, also baptised on 10 Feb 1811 at Dudley, parents Thomas & Sarah. I was hoping that someone can help me by checking the original parish records to see if they were brothers or not.
many thanks,
Sharon
Perth, Western Australia
Title: Re: Mander of Dudley 1811 baptism help?
Post by: ScobieDrom on Thursday 14 December 17 18:48 GMT (UK)
Daniel Mander was buried 22 December 1838 in Bury, Lancashire. Source: Manchester, England, Non-Conformist Deaths and Burials, 1758-1987. His age was given as 48 years. The grave number is 1342.  The grave was owned by Zecharias (sic) Mander, whose residence was Hornby Street.
Title: Re: Mander of Dudley 1811 baptism help?
Post by: sbunter on Thursday 14 December 17 19:05 GMT (UK)
Thanks for this, your transcription should read 1858 :)
Title: Re: Mander of Dudley 1811 baptism help?
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 15 December 17 08:55 GMT (UK)
I see Daniel does not name a Father on his 1855 Marriage Cert.

Also he was a Widower on his 1833 Marriage.
Marriage: 31 Jan 1833 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire, England
Daniel Maunder - (X), Carder, Widower, this Parish
Esther Barlow - (X), Spinster, this Parish
Witness: Ephraim Haworth****, (X); James Dickinson, (X)


So 1st Marriage likely was;
Marriage: 25 Mar 1830 Christ Church, Ainsworth, Lancashire, England
Daniel Monder - (X), Carder, this Parish
Ellin Whittaker - (X), Spinster, this Parish


Another Child;
HANNAH Mander 17 May 1807 St Thomas, Dudley, Mother SARAH

Marriage;
Marriage: 3 Jan 1831 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England
Ephraim Haworth - (X), Engineer, this Parish
HANNAH Maunder - (X), Spinster, this Parish

So looks like Hannahs Husband was a witness at Daniels 2nd Marriage.

As to Zachariah and Daniels Baptism, sorry I am in Australia too so cant help with a lookup.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Mander of Dudley 1811 baptism help?
Post by: sbunter on Friday 15 December 17 09:06 GMT (UK)
Thank you, I do already have this information.
There is also a Mary born about 1804 born Dudley who appears to be connected, she married in 1825 in Bury.
And an Elizabeth buried at Bury 1824 age 69.

Title: Re: Mander of Dudley 1811 baptism help?
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 15 December 17 09:07 GMT (UK)
Ok, fair enough, also found the Mary.

Hopefully someone in Dudley area can help you.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Mander of Dudley 1811 baptism help?
Post by: hanes teulu on Friday 15 December 17 09:30 GMT (UK)
I can only access FindMyPast's transcriptions but there's another Dudley baptism, only the mother named -

Hannah Mander, bap 17 May 1807, Dudley, mother Sarah 
Title: Re: Mander of Dudley 1811 baptism help?
Post by: hanes teulu on Friday 15 December 17 09:38 GMT (UK)
There's a marriage (transcription only) of a -
Sarah Mander, 11 Aug 1811, place Sedgley, to an Edward Grifffiths
Title: Re: Mander of Dudley 1811 baptism help?
Post by: philheeks on Thursday 19 April 18 10:52 BST (UK)
Hi Again

As promised I did a look up for you but its not going to be of any help I fear.

Dudley St Thomas

10FEB1811 Zechariah s/o Thomas/Sarah MANDER
10FEB1811 Daniel s/o Sarah MANDER
(there are no side notes on this parish register film so hence no clues)

While this film was loaded I had a look at some Marriages from 1808 - MAY1812 but didn't see the wedding of Thomas & Sarah as I had hoped to

All the very best

Phil

ps I hope someone can sort this out for you
Title: Re: Mander of Dudley 1811 baptism help?
Post by: sbunter on Thursday 19 April 18 10:57 BST (UK)
Thanks Phil for taking the time to check,
this is a hard one for sure.