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Title: william vokey
Post by: julia vokey on Sunday 17 December 17 00:22 GMT (UK)
Could anyone help in finding info of William Vokey Married to Sarah Strickland and immigrated to Newfoundland . They had 5 children when they moved here . William was born 1729. His will says he was from Jersey Isle  but people in Jersey say there is no record .  sarah Strickland was born  Sunk Island 1733. I don't know where else to look. Thanks, (*)

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Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 17 December 17 11:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Julia

Welcome to rootschat.  :)
 
What information do you have for the names, dates/places of birth for the children born prior to immigration.  Do you have the marriage of William to Sarah Strickland

Rosie  :)
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: la grande-méthe on Sunday 17 December 17 12:20 GMT (UK)
The name Vokey does not appear in any Jersey records which makes me think that it did not start out as that but has changed over the years. Possible candidates could be Vautier, Vaudin, Vauquier or Valpy, most of which are common Jersey names.
If Sarah was a Channel Islander it is likely that she came from Sark rather than Sunk Island.
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: julia vokey on Monday 18 December 17 02:20 GMT (UK)
Children of William Vokey and Sarah Strickland . Sarah 1757, Thomas 1753, Anne1750, Wm Philip1755 Mary 1782. My info on Sarah Strickland says born on Sunk Island east riding of Yorkshire uk 1733.I don't know where they were married in the uk but his will says he was from Jersey Isle but I'm thinking they came via jersey isle. Thanks for your prompt reply. Julia
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: sarah on Monday 18 December 17 16:02 GMT (UK)
The following message was sent to me in error by Julia who had forgotten to click on the blue reply button on the topic.

Regards

Sarah

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William Vokey born 1729 married to sarah Strickland born 1733. Their children : Sarah 1757, Thomas 1753, Anne 1750 Wm Philip 1755 and Mary 1782 I don't know where they were married  . The info I have on Sarah Strickland  says she was born Sunk Island east riding of Yorkshire UK. Williams will says he was from Jersey Isle . I was thinking maybe via Jersey Island .I know people on Jersey language is French and where the Vokeys Settled in Newfoundland was all English. I'm assuming they didn't come from Jersey. Thanks for your prompt reply.
Julia
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 19 December 17 13:32 GMT (UK)
Sorry Julia but I can't see anything that would fit this family.  :-\
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: SelDen on Wednesday 20 December 17 07:43 GMT (UK)
Have you looked for Sarah in the parish records for Sunk Island? Or neighbouring parishes?

This link may help provide a little context:

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Sunk_Island,_Yorkshire_Genealogy

Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 20 December 17 07:58 GMT (UK)
According to Genuki  http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Extraparochial/SunkislandPRlocation there are no parish records for Sunk Island prior to 1820.  :'(
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: bevj on Wednesday 20 December 17 21:21 GMT (UK)
Children of William Vokey and Sarah Strickland . Sarah 1757, Thomas 1753, Anne1750, Wm Philip1755 Mary 1782. My info on Sarah Strickland says born on Sunk Island east riding of Yorkshire uk 1733.I don't know where they were married in the uk but his will says he was from Jersey Isle but I'm thinking they came via jersey isle. Thanks for your prompt reply. Julia

Is Mary 1782 a typo?
I doubt there would be a 25-year gap between two of the children (not to mention the age of the parents)!
Bev
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: SelDen on Thursday 21 December 17 05:27 GMT (UK)
According to Genuki  http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Extraparochial/SunkislandPRlocation there are no parish records for Sunk Island prior to 1820.  :'(

Apologies, I misread the original query as Sarah being born 1834 for some reason.

No, Sunk Island appears to have been extra parochial prior to 1820, but families may be able to be found in the neighbouring parishes (or of course local non-conformist congregations).
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 24 December 17 10:26 GMT (UK)
according to this tree - Sarah Vokey was born 1690 in Poole ,Dorset ,England and died aged 70 in 1760 in Bishops Cove,Newfoundland ,Canada - she married a John Barrett - could this be a sister of William Vokey ??   if so - do we think William may have been born in Dorset as well ??

https://gw.geneanet.org/princessdella?n=vokey&oc=&p=sarah
ADDED
This record says she was born Channel Islands and died 1765 aged 75 - so one of them is wrong ..

https://gw.geneanet.org/brent?n=vokey&oc=1&p=sarah
you might find some info of interest to you on here
https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&nom=vokey&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=&country__0__=&region__0__=&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&from=1700&to=1800&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: julia vokey on Sunday 31 December 17 22:53 GMT (UK)
Children of William Vokey and Sarah Strickland . Sarah 1757, Thomas 1753, Anne1750, Wm Philip1755 Mary 1757
Children of William Vokey and Sarah Strickland . Sarah 1757, Thomas 1753, Anne1750, Wm Philip1755 Mary 1782. My info on Sarah Strickland says born on Sunk Island east riding of Yorkshire uk 1733.I don't know where they were married in the uk but his will says he was from Jersey Isle but I'm thinking they came via jersey isle. Thanks for your prompt reply. Julia

Is Mary 1782 a typo?
I doubt there would be a 25-year gap between two of the children (not to mention the age of the parents)!
Bev
. My info on Sarah Strickland says born on Sunk Island east riding of Yorkshire uk 1733.I don't know where they were married in the uk but his will says he was from Jersey Isle but I'm thinking they came via jersey isle. Thanks for your prompt reply. Julia

Is Mary 1782 a typo?
I doubt there would be a 25-year gap between two of the children (not to mention the age of the parents)!
Bev
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: julia vokey on Sunday 31 December 17 23:06 GMT (UK)
I made a mistake with birth of marys birth .should be 1757 . Also some are confused with Sarah Vokey and sarah  Vokey nee Strickland.
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: Chinablue on Wednesday 28 March 18 04:16 BST (UK)
William Vokey and Sarah Strickland are my Great Great Grandparents. What would you like to know. I’ll see if I can help.
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: Chinablue on Thursday 29 March 18 00:49 BST (UK)
Julia, William Vokey was born in Chedder, Somerset, England in 1788 according to the 1841 England Census
Married Sarah January 26, 1811

Sarah was born in 1789 in Somerton, Somerset, England.

The Vokey’s came to Newfoundland from England. It was two brothers that came here in the 1800’s I believe. They mainly lived in Trinity and Spaniards Bay Newfoundland

Does this help?

Kim
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: julia vokey on Thursday 29 March 18 01:32 BST (UK)
We may be talking about  a different William vokey. My husbands  lineage is Philip vokey married Dianna Gosse, Son Aaron Vokey married Virigina McGrath. AAron and his brother nathanial were born in Spainards Bay and moved to Trinity Bay. What is the first Vokey that came to NL?
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: Chinablue on Thursday 29 March 18 03:24 BST (UK)
This is the same information I have as well. My email was to point out that William Vokey, that married Sarah Strickland, was born in 1788. :

When William Vokey was born in 1788 in Somerset, England, his father, Philip, was 33 and his mother, Rebecca, was 15. He married Sarah Strickland on January 26, 1811. They had ten children in 20 years. He died on February 14, 1867, in Colony, Alabama, USA, having lived a long life of 79 years, and was buried in Rodney Stoke, Somerset, England”



The William Vokey born 1729 was married to a Sarah Welland:

“William J Vokey was born in 1729. He married Sarah Welland on June 13, 1779, in Witley, Surrey, England. They had one child during their marriage. He died in November 1783 at the age of 54, and was buried in Stepney, Middlesex, England.”


The first Vokey in Newfoundland I have is Philip William Vokey born 1755. He was married to Rebecca Kate Crane


Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: julia vokey on Saturday 31 March 18 22:53 BST (UK)
Hi Kim  Do you live in NL. I live in Pasadena NL Where did you get the info of William Vokey that he died in Alabama USA . That's  interesting info.   Easter Blessings          Julia
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: Chinablue on Sunday 01 April 18 02:29 BST (UK)
Hi Julia. That fact was incorrect. Here is the revised:

When William Vokey was born in 1788 in Somerset, England, his father, Philip, was 33 and his mother, Rebecca, was 15. He married Sarah Strickland on January 26, 1811. They had ten children in 20 years. He died on February 13, 1867, in Wells, Somerset, England, having lived a long life of 79 years, and was buried in Rodney Stoke, Somerset, England.

I live in Topsail, Newfoundland just outside St Johns

Blessed Be
Kim
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: julia vokey on Friday 13 April 18 23:00 BST (UK)
Hi Kim , What is your connection to the Vokey Family .? Is it through Vokey or Strickland?My husbands connection is through AAron 1832
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: Chinablue on Friday 13 April 18 23:24 BST (UK)
Hi. My closest relationship is with the Vokey’s. However, I do have connections with the Strickland’s as well.

Kim
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: julia vokey on Saturday 14 April 18 00:22 BST (UK)
Where was sarah Strickland born?
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: Chinablue on Saturday 14 April 18 02:41 BST (UK)
She was born in Somerton, Somerset England
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: cnickless on Saturday 25 February 23 21:02 GMT (UK)
Hello Folks, there is some unfortunately serious problems with the structures and names listed above - firstly, the Voke family of Somerset, at this point, has not been tied into the Vokey family of Newfoundland in anyway that I can see or figure out. 

The William Voke who married on 26 January 1811 at Somerton, Somerset, was married to Sarah Peddle, as per the actual record and banns, not Sarah Strickland/Stickland.  This William Voke and Sarah Peddle stay in England and in 1841 are listed in the census living with 5 children in Somerset.  Hence this couple cannot be the William and Sarah Vokey that is mentioned as living in Spaniard's Bay, Newfoundland at the beginning of the 1800's.

Additionally I cannot find any Philip and Rebecca as parents of any child born in Somerset.  The name Philip Voke does not appear anywhere in Somerset records.

There is a Sarah Stickland who marries in 1811 to a William Feke at Somerset, but again no relation to the Vokey's of Newfoundland.

I would be interested to know if someone has actually seen the will that apparently opens with "I, William Vokey, late of Jersey Island...", there has been talk of this for many years but I have never seen it.  It is an interesting proposition that this William Vokey may actually be the father of Philip born 1855, but this would push the will back to the 1700's.  I have the will written by William Vokey who married Sarah and was the father of 8 children born in Newfoundland, and who died February 13th, 1867 at Spaniard's Bay, Newfoundland, this will does not open with the words above and no refrence is made to Jersey Island in this will.

Unfortunately the data around the early Vokey family has been somewhat twisted around it seems, and what records we do have do not point to any connections that are detailed above about Somerset, England.

The commentary about the Sarah that married John Barrett born 1690. being a Sarah Vokey is also a tale that has been passed around with no legitimate information put forward to support it.

The earliest information to date shows a Philip Vokey born around 1755 who died 1834 at Spaniard's Bay and his wife Rebecca Crane born 1773 at (according to the known data) Upper Island Cove, Newfoundland.  Philip Vokey did have a sister Sarah Vokey who married John Coombs in 1782 at Harbour Grace, so we know the family was in Newfoundland as early as that date, but there are indications that they were there earlier.  Whether Philip and his sister Sarah are actually born in Newfoundland is to date an unanswered questions.

Of course I would love to hear any furhter information that might help to answer some of these questions.

Regards, Cary
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 26 February 23 09:16 GMT (UK)
The name Vokey does not appear in any Jersey records which makes me think that it did not start out as that but has changed over the years. Possible candidates could be Vautier, Vaudin, Vauquier or Valpy, most of which are common Jersey names.
If Sarah was a Channel Islander it is likely that she came from Sark rather than Sunk Island.

this tree says he married Sarah Welland - I wonder if it is Sarahs second marriage and her maiden name was Strickland ????
William Vokey
Born in 1729 - Isle of Jersey, Channel Islands, England
Deceased in November 1783 - Isle of Jersey, Channel Islands, England, aged 54 years old
 
Parents
 Phillip Vokey 1704-

 
Spouses and children
Married 13 June 1779, Witley, All Saints, Surrey, England, to Sarah Welland 1735-1803 with
M  Philip William Vokey 1755-1834
...............................................................................................
https://gw.geneanet.org/mikeatelijah?lang=en&pz=benjamin+alexander&nz=hughes&p=william&n=vokey
tree owner is a Mike Hughes
BUT - SAYS MARRIED 1779 - so did they marry after the children were born...or is this tree drastically wrong ??
Title: Re: william vokey
Post by: cnickless on Sunday 26 February 23 20:52 GMT (UK)
This marriage from 1779 is for a William Voke (possibly pronounced like poke, I am not certain) who married a Sarah Welland.  This cannot tie into any of the Vokey structure that we currently have established by the written records.  William Vokey from Spaniard's Bay, who married Sarah, and was the father of 8 children all born in Spaniard's Bay, was only born in 1789 so this William Vokey above cannot be him as he was not even born yet.  William Vokey of Spaniard's Bay is the son of Philip and Rebecca Vokey.  This William Voke and Sarah Welland connection is drastically wrong as you noted.

I just saw on the tree on Familysearch that the supposed Sarah Strickland who is supposed to be the wife of the William Vokey I mention above born 1789, is now evidently born in Pennsylvania.

The data out there on the Vokey family appears to be inherently wrong in many ways with very little back up to support any of the claims except someone else's tree.  So the errors get carried forward again and again...very frustrating indeed.

Cheers, Cary