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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Treetotal on Sunday 17 December 17 14:04 GMT (UK)
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I wondered if anyone knew what this piece is please and what it says...I can read some but not all of it.
Thanks for looking.
Carol
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I can make out
Commemeration of th..
Royal higness (es)?
Prince (al)..bert?
Can you take a pencil rubbing of the lettering?
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Thanks for that Pauline...I can see that too...can you make out the word Jubilee?
Carol
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To be honest, no.
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I see Royal ? ? ? ? Hull...it's not Jubilee.
Thanks for looking ;)
Carol
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I can see Hull and possibly (J) ULY on the next line. :-\
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Yes Jan I see Commemoration of ? ? ? Royal Highness Prince and Princess of Wales to Hull July 1
Thanks for that.
Carol
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I think the word "Wales" is on there also :)
Frank.
Added: Sorry Carol, posts must have crossed.
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Aw bless you Frank...thanks ;)
Carol
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Can the relevant Prince and Princess of Wales be identified from the image? They look quite old - Regency? Georgian?
According to Wikipedia the only Princes of Wales in the 1800s were the future George IV and Edward VII. George and Princess Caroline separated in 1796 after about a year of marriage, and it doesn't look much like Edward, so I'm a bit stumped.
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Thanks Arthur....Me too...this looks like a date but not sure.
Carol
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Thanks Arthur....Me too...this looks like a date but not sure.
I thought I saw March 10 1[8].. there.
Edward Prince of Wales married Alexandra of Denmark on 10th March 1863 :-\
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There was a visit by the Prince and Princess of Wales to Hull in July 1869 to open the Albert Dock. Widely reported in newspapers at the time.
Isobel
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Any similarity :-\
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1863-UK-Prince-of-Wales-Albert-Edward-VII-Alexandra-of-Denmark-Marriage-Medal-/381872008924
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There was a visit by the Prince and Princess of Wales to Hull in July 1869 to open the Albert Dock. Widely reported in newspapers at the time.
Isobel
Thanks for your input Isobel but I don't think it's Victoria and Albert :-\
Carol
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Any similarity :-\
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1863-UK-Prince-of-Wales-Albert-Edward-VII-Alexandra-of-Denmark-Marriage-Medal-/381872008924
Thanks for that Jen...Yes I believe this is a match for the couple in my photo :D :D :D
Carol
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There was a visit by the Prince and Princess of Wales to Hull in July 1869 to open the Albert Dock. Widely reported in newspapers at the time.
Isobel
Thanks for your input Isobel but I don't think it's Victoria and Albert :-\
Carol
That wouldn't be Victoria and Albert, it would be Edward and Alexandra. Victoria married Albert after she became Queen - they were never Prince and Princes of Wales :D
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Oh dear...I din't think that through...schoolgirl error ::)
I found this:
http://thedocksofhull.weebly.com/alexandra-dock.html
Carol
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I found this:
http://thedocksofhull.weebly.com/alexandra-dock.html
From that site:
"The dock was opened on Thursday, 16th July 1885 by the wife of Lt Colonel Gerard Smith. M.P. Chairman of the Hull & Barnsley Railway Company, who stood in for Princess Alexandra and the Prince of Wales who were unable to attend at the last minute."
So as an alternative to the 1869 visit, could this medal be commemorating something that never happened?
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Yes that thought occurred to me too...it makes sense as the dock appears to have been named after her.
Carol
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At least JenB's link has the couple facing the right way for Albert and Alexandra, so certainly them on some occasion. (although having said that . . . . in some other images on that link they are facing the other way . . . someone explain that to me please. I thought rulers faced opposite ways as they succeeded. i.e. Elizabeth's successor will face the other way, as did her father.)
Like Arthur's idea . . . .
Wiggy :)
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At least JenB's link has the couple facing the right way for Albert and Alexandra, so certainly them on some occasion. (although having said that . . . . in some other images on that link they are facing the other way . . . someone explain that to me please. I thought rulers faced opposite ways as they succeeded. i.e. Elizabeth's successor will face the other way, as did her father.)
Like Arthur's idea . . . .
Wiggy :)
I think the 'facing opposite ways' only applies to currency; I thought this was a souvenir.
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You are probably right NJ.
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The nose shapes look right for Albert and Alexandra
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At least JenB's link has the couple facing the right way for Albert and Alexandra, so certainly them on some occasion. (although having said that . . . . in some other images on that link they are facing the other way . . . someone explain that to me please. I thought rulers faced opposite ways as they succeeded. i.e. Elizabeth's successor will face the other way, as did her father.)
Like Arthur's idea . . . .
Wiggy :)
I think the 'facing opposite ways' only applies to currency; I thought this was a souvenir.
Yes I thought that too.
Carol
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The nose shapes look right for Albert and Alexandra
Thanks for that Geoff....it is a good match :)
Carol
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There was a visit by the Prince and Princess of Wales to Hull in July 1869 to open the Albert Dock. Widely reported in newspapers at the time.
Isobel
Now I have the chance to take a proper look without trying to do several things at once, I think that this is most likely to be the occasion that the coin was struck. It was named after Albert Edward.
Thanks Isobel for your help and to JenB for finding the image and others who joined the search :D
Carol