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Title: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: Tommo50 on Sunday 17 December 17 18:53 GMT (UK)
Thomas Tomsett - A wheelwright of Buxted , Married Ann Ingram of Staplehurst , at All Saints Staplehurst 1790
We believe Thomas was baptised 1762 , St Margaret The Queen Buxted - son of John and Mary Tompsett
looking for any info on John and Mary (Possibly nee Uridge) please.
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: emeltom on Sunday 17 December 17 19:22 GMT (UK)
Can't see a marriage for John and Mary but they had the following children baptised at Buxted

Mary 25 March 1755
John 22 May 1757
Elizabeth 21 January 1759
Thomas 14 March 1762

Emeltom
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: emeltom on Sunday 17 December 17 19:30 GMT (UK)
Finally found the marriage

John Tompsett/Mary Uridge 14 April 1754 Buxted

Emeltom
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: Tommo50 on Sunday 17 December 17 21:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks Emeltom. I've found a John Tompsett Bapt 1720 to Richard and Mary in Buxted and a Mary Uridge Bapt 1737 in Hadlow .Father John.   seems a largish age gap ? 17 yrs  wonder if they are correct
Richard is not a name that appears later in the family line - plenty of Thomas' and John's .
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 17 December 17 22:14 GMT (UK)
they had the following children baptised at Buxted
Mary 25 March 1755
John 22 May 1757
Elizabeth 21 January 1759
Thomas 14 March 1762

All named in John's will (1794), along with his wife Mary. Son Thomas of Hadlow, Kent, got thirty pounds.

found the marriage
John Tompsett/Mary Uridge 14 April 1754 Buxted

The very first in the new register. Bachelor and spinster, both of the parish
John marked, Mary signed
witnessed by Edward Colbrand and Wm Devonish (who became a regular)
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 17 December 17 22:27 GMT (UK)
John's will (1794), along with his wife Mary.

The only burial possibility for her in Buxted appears to be
1816
Mary Tompsett
abode Buxted
buried Apr. 21st
age 86
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: Tommo50 on Monday 18 December 17 03:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks ,Mary, Buried in 1816 aged 86  = born in 1730.  - rules out Mary Uridge of Hadlow Bapt 1837. Is there a Mary Uridge in Buxted  ?
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: Tommo50 on Monday 18 December 17 05:43 GMT (UK)
does Johns will in 1794 refer to his Daughter Mary as the wife of William Muddle ?
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 18 December 17 08:22 GMT (UK)
Hi
Yes, that's right. Mary, wife of William Muddle of Moorfields London.

You can see the will on FamilySearch (you need to have a free account, and be logged in). It's the register copy version.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6XG4-XC?i=22&cat=173636

The marriage of John and Mary is here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6SP7-LND?i=312&cat=244730

John
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: Tommo50 on Monday 18 December 17 09:30 GMT (UK)
got it thanks

Ties a few loose ends together

Richard Thompsett had land (tenemented) at Duddleswell 1729-1745

Passes to his son John 1756-1794

in-turn to his son John1795-1824

to Johns Sister Mary -Muddle   1824-24

signed over to her daughter Lydia wife of Thomas Starr 1824-1838 - when they sold and left for Australia

I believe Richard was born in Withyham 1694  and married Mary Saunders at St Michaels Withyham
1720 ?

Cheers
Mark
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: emeltom on Monday 18 December 17 10:19 GMT (UK)
Richard Tomsett was baptised Withyham 19 August 1694, parents Richard and Elizabeth. He married Mary Saunders at Withyham 26 April 1720.

Emeltom
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: Tommo50 on Monday 18 December 17 17:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks Emeltom - now looking for Richard Snr - I have a possible candidate born 1664 in Rotherfeild Sussex to Henry Tompsett -mother Parnel Tompsett  ??
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: Tommo50 on Friday 22 December 17 03:03 GMT (UK)
Wondering if it's possible to identify location of the land on which the Tomsett's farmed  near Duddleswell ?

"Then at the Court of the Manor of Duddleswell held on 29 October 1824 it was recorded that John Thomset yeoman of Buxted, who held, all that messuage or tenement, barn, buildings, and 20 acres of land laying around the same, being in the parish of Buxted and abutting the highway leading from Maresfield towards Crowborough on the south, by a Ghyll from the house formerly Thomas Cheesman’s adjoining a place called Old Land Gate on the west, by the lands of the Lord of the Manor on the north part called Newnhams Wood, and by the lands formerly of Robert Pettitt near Browns Brook now belonging to R J Streatfield on the east, and paying a yearly rent of £1 19s 9d to the Lord of the Manor, had died. Mary Muddle came to the court and produced the will of John Thomset,[8] dated the 3 February 1824 and granted probate by the Deanery of South Malling on 31 July 1824, in which he left ‘all my copyhold messuage or tenement, barn, buildings, and farm land, being near Browns Brook in Buxted and now in my own occupation and commonly called Forest Field and holden of the Manor of Duddleswell’ to his sister Mary Muddle, and Mary was admitted to this property on paying a fine of 40s to the Lord of the Manor. At the same court Mary then surrendered this property to be for her use during her natural life and on her death to the use of her daughter Lydia wife of Thomas Starr yeoman of Buxted and her heirs forever. Lydia Starr was admitted to this property on payment of a fine of 40s to the Lord of the Manor. The will of Mary’s brother John Thomset also left Mary any residue of his estate."




Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: solidrock on Friday 22 December 17 06:40 GMT (UK)
Here's an 1875 map of Duddleswell.
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: solidrock on Friday 22 December 17 07:24 GMT (UK)
Here's another showing Browns Brook. Oldlands is also there.
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: solidrock on Friday 22 December 17 07:49 GMT (UK)
The farm is probably in the top left quarter of map.
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: Tommo50 on Friday 22 December 17 19:13 GMT (UK)
got it - block No 15 on the map below . thanks for all the help

Buxted   Messuage/tenement   20 acres   Copyhold
B9   40/- annual rent; Fine and heriot 40/- each.
Road Maresfeild/Crowborough S, Gill to Oldlands Gate W, Lord N, Robert Pettit E.
________________________________________
1693   Map part no.15
1700 to 1729   Grant Mildred wife of Richard Burgess and John Hoadley of Rotherfeild millwright.1729 JH surrendered RT.
1729 to 1745   Richard Thompsett admit.1729 mortgage James Parker of Mayfeild farmer £20.1744 mortgage Nicholas Stone of Lewes gent £21.1761 satis.1745 deceased.
1746 to 1795   John Thompsett admit on 2nd proc.1795 deceased.
1795 to 1824   John Thompsett eldest son admit and surrendered to will.1820 surrendered ED to form B9A.1824 deceased.
1820   Partition to form Messuage hogpound and hovel, 26 rods. by apportionment 39/9d annual rent
1824 to 1824   Mary Muddle of Buxted sister admit by will and surrendered LS.
1824 to 1838   Lydia daughter wife of Thomas Starr of Buxted yeoman admit.1835 they surrendered to will.1838 surrendered RSS £860/5/9d, inter alia.
1838 to 1850   Richard Shuttleworth Streatfeild Esq of Uckfield admit ,with B5.1850 deceased.
1840   Tithe map nos.1589/94,1598/99—24.3.06 acres.
1852   Richard James Streatfeild Esq only son aged 8 admit by will on 3rd proc.Charlotte Anne mother and James Brown Esq the younger of Rossington York guardians,fine 2/6d,with M49,B5,7,8,9A,12.1865 surrendered to bar tail and readmit with Mand readmit with M49,B5,7,8,9A,12.
Title: Re: Tomsetts of Buxted
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 23 December 17 02:13 GMT (UK)
As now.