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Title: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Monday 18 December 17 13:43 GMT (UK)
Hi,
For many years I have been trying to find my great great  Aunt ,Susan Rowe Jordan, b1854 Falmouth.
She was a prostitute in Falmouth as a young girl and I lost her in 1877 when she witnessed her sisters wedding. Someone has emailed me to say she may have married in South Africa in 1880,someone named George Gilbert. Anyone who could help with information on this couple, marriage details, children possibly,it would be great.
Thanks
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 18 December 17 16:24 GMT (UK)
Anglican Church Archives
Susan Rowe Jordon age 25 spinster
Birth age abt 1855
Spouse George Rey Gilbert age 24
Occupation mason
Residence place Port Nolloth
Marriage date 29 March 1880
Church St Andrews Port Nolloth Namaqualand



Rosie
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 18 December 17 17:13 GMT (UK)
There is Death for  Susan Rowe  Gilbert 1st January 1932
Burial Waikaraka Cemetery Auckland New Zealand

Electoral Rolls 1928:
34 Trafalgar Street Manukau Auckland
George Reynolds Gilbert ..stone mason
Susan Rowe Jordon Reynolds Gilbert
Thomas George Reynolds Gilbert ..builder
Matilda Reynolds Gilbert ...married

Rosie
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Monday 18 December 17 17:25 GMT (UK)
Wow that’s is amazing. It all fits , but how would I verify if she was born in Cornwall, so I know that it indeed is her. The New Zealand census, does it give relationships and ages. Thanks again, this could be exciting news for our family
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 17:30 GMT (UK)
Photograph of Susan Rowe Gilbert on FIND A GRAVE

Burial - Waikaraka Cemetery  Onehunga, Auckland Council, Auckland, New Zealand
PLOT Area 3 Block 9 Lot No 100B

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/165026651

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=165026651&PIpi=157027621

Husband George Gilbert - passed away 6 July 1946 aged 91 years

George Reynolds Gilbert is also listed in New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 17:36 GMT (UK)
New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981 for 1928 lists Susan Rowe Jordan Reynolds  and George Reynolds Gilbert - "Pendennis" 34 trafalgar Street Manukau Auckland.

1911 New Zealand Electoral Rolls has the couple living Arthur Street Onehunga - George listed as a stonemason. There is also a John Henry Reynolds Gilbert at the same address.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onehunga

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 17:41 GMT (UK)
John Henry Reynolds Gilbert born 1885 appears on the New Zealand death index 1957 Auckland New Zealand - folio 2816

Death date 3 June 1957 - New Zealand Cemetery records -  see below

Sandra

Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 17:51 GMT (UK)
Could be a number of births related to the couple

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dBirthSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 17:55 GMT (UK)
Charles Ernest Reynolds was one of those births listed - FIND A GRAVE

Burial Waikaraka Cemetery  Onehunga Auckland Council Auckland, New Zealand
Plot: Area 4 Block B Lot No 257

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=gilbert&GSiman=1&GScid=2268360&GRid=165026646&

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Monday 18 December 17 17:58 GMT (UK)
This is unbelievably good information, crumbs I hope it’s her, the lady in the photo looks like my Dad a bit but sometimes we see things that we want to see, thanks again
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 18:01 GMT (UK)
Looks ok so far Nooshie.

Marriage for John Henry Reynolds Gilbert  - Alice Kate Coster in 1924 - Folio Number 1298

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dMarriageSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 18:03 GMT (UK)
Arthur Edward Gilbert - 1891 - passed away 4 July 1972 - aged 81 years - Taranaki, New Zealand.

Arthur Edward Reynolds Gilbert - New Zealand Electoral Roll - 1938 - New Plymouth - Taranaki
Young Street - New Plymouth - Manager - also at that address - Alma Winifred Reynolds Gilbert -

Alma appears on the New Zealand death index - Apr/May/June 1948 (death date 24 April 1948)
Te Henui Cemetery. Taranaki. New Zealand.

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 18:15 GMT (UK)
Lavina Reynolds Gilbert married in 1914 to George William Wilding.

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Monday 18 December 17 18:17 GMT (UK)
Again many thanks
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Monday 18 December 17 18:35 GMT (UK)
We have been looking for this relative for fifteen years or so, this is so exciting, goodness there may be relatives still in NZ who knows. Her house was called Pendennis, well if they named the house that would be more verification,as Pendennis Castle,is in Falmouth,Cornwall. She had a very tough start in life,so to think she had a long marriage and children well,it would be wonderful.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 18:58 GMT (UK)
Sorry - interrupted - New Zealand Electoral Rolls 1919 shows Irene Jane Reynolds (spinster)  - Trafalgar Street Onehunga. Auckland
George (stone mason) and Susan and John Henry Gilbert (plumber)/Matilda Reynolds Gilbert/Thomas George Gilbert (millhand) at same address.

possibles - Matilda Reynolds Gilbert - 1884 - passed away 24 Feb 1966 - Auckland New Zealand.
Cemetery:   Mangere

and Thomas George R Gilbert - born South Africa  passed away 11 April 1968 - aged 85 years -
buried 13 April 1968 -

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Monday 18 December 17 19:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sandra. Do you,think Matilda was the wife of Thomas or another child? Susan seems to have had a number of children, but I am getting a bit lost with them all now!! I have John Henry,Charles Ernest, Irene, Lavinia, Thomas,Arthur Edward and possibly Matilda so far.
I went on to the find a grave site and under the photo of Susan it verifies that she was born in Cornwall in 1854, yippee!!
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 19:13 GMT (UK)
Thomas George Gilbert (retired) and Matilda Gilbert are on the New Zealand Electoral Roll 1957 at 126 Trafalgar Street Onehunga Auckland. Also at that address Ivan Hansen Reynolds Gilbert (engineer) and Thelma Beatrice Gilbert (married)

Thomas (millhand) and Matilda were living at Norman's Hill Road. Onehunga - Voters List 1911 - Manukau - Auckland.

Thomas G R Gilbert was not married on 1905/1906 voters list.
Ivan Hansen Reynolds Gilbert -    born 25 May 1923

1978 - Ivan Hansen Gilbert and Gaynor M Gilbert 10 Ava Avenue - Auckland.

Sandra

Thomas George Gilbert married Matilda Hansen - 1907

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=%2FmarriageSelect.m%3Fpage%3D2#matches
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Monday 18 December 17 19:32 GMT (UK)
Thanks again Sandra, married couple then, that helps to sort them all out 🙂
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 19:48 GMT (UK)
You're very welcome.  Charles Ernest Gilbert - born 1888 New Zealand - passed away 30 December 1984 - aged 96 years - burial  Waikaraka Auckland New Zealand.

Area 4 - Row 2 - addition to 4129 - Gilbert - also her dear husband Charles E R Gilbert - died 30 December 1984 - 96 years.

spouse Emma Harriet Gilbert - born 1887 - passed away 8 June 1964 - Burial - Cemetery:   Waikaraka Auckland New Zealand.

4129 Emma Harriet IInlmo - loved wife of Charles E R Gilbert - died 8 June 1964 - aged 77 years -

FIND A GRAVE

Waikaraka Cemetery  Onehunga, Auckland Council, Auckland, New Zealand
PLOT Area 4 Block B Lot No 255

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/165026647

Sandra

Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Monday 18 December 17 19:50 GMT (UK)
I am wondering if there are any living relatives still around. It seems they had small,families after Susan, so who knows Also I wonder if Irene ever got married. There was a shortage of men after the war, so she may not have.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 20:00 GMT (UK)
Irene Jane Reynolds Gilbert

1921/3053 - Irene Jane Reynolds   Gilbert married   Edward Ensor Irwin

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dMarriageSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 20:03 GMT (UK)
New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007 - Irene Jane Irwin - 1897 - aged 85 years - passed away 3 October 1982 - Auckland, New Zealand - burial - Waikaraka Auckland New Zealand.

FIND A GRAVE

Burial Waikaraka Cemetery  Onehunga Auckland Council Auckland, New Zealand
Plot: Area 5 Block C Lot No 857

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=irwin&GSiman=1&GScid=2268360&GRid=165295366&

husband - Edward Ensor Irwin - passed away 20 June 1950

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=IRWIN&GSiman=1&GScid=2268360&GRid=165295361&

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Monday 18 December 17 20:13 GMT (UK)
Great, thanks again. I was wondering if you could find the death of Harriet Elizabeth Mawkes. She was Susan's Daughter but isn’t on  the headstone with her husband Arthur Henry.
Thanks
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 18 December 17 20:17 GMT (UK)
Irene and edward Irwin had a son Edwrad Roy Irwin who appeared on the New Zealand  Voters List 1946 with a wife Marjorie Edith - Edward Roy Irwin was a mechanic.
Edward born 1923 passed away 1994

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Marjorie Edith Irwin born 23 March 1923 passed away 2012

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 19 December 17 19:40 GMT (UK)
Great, thanks again. I was wondering if you could find the death of Harriet Elizabeth Mawkes. She was Susan's Daughter but isn’t on  the headstone with her husband Arthur Henry.
Thanks

As Arthur was only 38 when he died Harriet may well have remarried

NZ BDM's

1917/7625   Mawkes    Arthur Henry    38Y

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 19 December 17 19:48 GMT (UK)
Harriet and a son Albert Charles Mawkes born 1904  (sheet metal worker) and a Henry Samuel Mawkes born 1906  (plumber ) - all living 8 Quadrant Road, Onehunga. Auckland. NZ Electoral roll 1928

Henry Samuel Mawkes married Eileen Kate Andrew - 1929

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 19 December 17 19:51 GMT (UK)
Death of Henry Samuel Mawkes

1975/48534   Mawkes   Henry Samuel   22 June 1906   

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

1993/35256   Mawkes   Eileen Kate   23 April 1908

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 19 December 17 19:52 GMT (UK)
Death of Arthur Charles Mawkes

1985/37813   Mawkes   Albert Charles   17 January 1904

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 19 December 17 20:01 GMT (UK)
Marriage Albert Charles Mawkes to Susan Martha Clarabella Hatfield - 1929

Susan Martha Clarabella Mawkes - born about 1905 Australia passed away 22 November 1967 - Auckland, New Zealand. Waikaraka Cemetery.

1967/41163   Mawkes   Susan Martha Clarabel   62 Years

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 19 December 17 20:05 GMT (UK)
This may well be the remarriage of Harriet

NZ BDM's

1934/7052   Harriett Elizabeth    Mawkes  to   Joseph Hannam    Bettenson

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 19 December 17 20:06 GMT (UK)
Another birth for Harriet and Arthur Henry -

1908/1237   Mawkes   Edith Doreen   Harriet Elizabeth Reynolds   Arthur Henry

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dBirthSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Edith Doreen mawkes marriage Samuel Alexander Steven in 1933

1933/1032   Edith Doreen   Mawkes   Samuel Alexander   Steven



Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 19 December 17 20:08 GMT (UK)
This may well be the remarriage of Harriet

NZ BDM's

1934/7052   Harriett Elizabeth    Mawkes  to   Joseph Hannam    Bettenson

Cheers Janette

2 deaths 1969/1970

1970/28321   Bettenson   Harriett Elizabeh   88 Years
1969/46463   Bettenson   Joseph Hannam           84 Years

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 19 December 17 20:09 GMT (UK)
Name    BETTENSON, HARRIETT ELIZABETH
Details    F: Died 10-01-1970: Aged 88:
Place    Waikaraka
Location    Area 5 Block E Lot No 763
Remarks    1980s transcribed inscription reads "Bettenson - In loving memory of Harriett Bettenson loved mother of the Mawkes family died 10 Jan 1970 aged 88 yrs."

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 19 December 17 20:10 GMT (UK)
BETTENSON, Joseph Hannam
Date of Death:
Block:
Papakura Cemetery, Great South Road Papakura
Lot:
PRSAL-L-041
Date Buried:
Saturday, June 21, 1969

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 19 December 17 20:16 GMT (UK)


2 deaths 1969/1970

1970/28321   Bettenson   Harriett Elizabeh   88 Years
1969/46463   Bettenson   Joseph Hannam           84 Years

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Sandra


Hi Sandra,these links to NZ BDM's don't work as you can't link an individual entry.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search

NooshieW can use the search herself

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 19 December 17 20:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks - Always like to link to a source if possible to show where the info came from/


Another birth for harriet and Arthur Henry -

1908/1237   Mawkes   Edith Doreen   Harriet Elizabeth Reynolds   Arthur Henry

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dBirthSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Edith Doreen mawkes marriage Samuel Alexander Steven in 1933

1933/1032   Edith Doreen   Mawkes   Samuel Alexander   Steven



Sandra

Samuel Alexander Steven 1898 passed away 1 February 2956 Auckland NZ -    Waikumete Cemetery.
Plot 43
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 19 December 17 20:22 GMT (UK)
Not sure if we did these two yesterday - apologises if I duplicate - there were 6 children in total

1902/16534   Mawkes   Olive Hooper   Harriet Elizabeth Reynolds   Arthur Henry

1911/15149   Mawkes   June Irene   Harriet Elizabeth Reynolds   Arthur Harry

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dBirthSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 19 December 17 20:23 GMT (UK)
Olive Hooper Mawkes married John Iredale Armstrong in 1925 - Olive passed away 1993 - John in 1972

1993/34655   Armstrong   Olive Hooper   1 June 1902

1972/25278   Armstrong   John Iredale   29 March 1899

Sandra

Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 19 December 17 20:27 GMT (UK)
Possible for June Irene -

Irene Mawkes to Ralph Stanley Bernard Richards in  1931 - Irene passed away 2012
Ralph Stanley passed away 1976

2012/4193   Richards   Irene   16 June 1911

1976/45522   Richards   Ralph Stanley Bernard   2 September 1906

FIND A GRAVE

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/166223538

Waikaraka Cemetery  Onehunga, Auckland Council, Auckland, New Zealand
PLOT Area 5 Block E Lot No 808

Jack Stanley Roichards - passed away 2005

Waikaraka Cemetery  Onehunga, Auckland Council, Auckland, New Zealand
PLOT Area 5 Block E Lot No 808

Sandra
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 19 December 17 21:04 GMT (UK)
There is Death for  Susan Rowe  Gilbert 1st January 1932
Burial Waikaraka Cemetery Auckland New Zealand

Rosie

GILBERT, SUSAN ROE REYNOLDS
Died 01-01-1932:
Aged 76:
Place    Waikaraka
Location    Area 3 Block 9 Lot No 100B

Remarks    transcribed inscription reads ' In loving memory of Arthur Henry beloved husband of Harriet Mawkes died 17 Dec 1917 aged 38 yrs Also Susan Rowe beloved wife of George Gilbert died 1 Jan 1932 aged 77 yrs Also her loved husband George Reynolds died 6 July 1946 aged 91 yrs"

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Tuesday 19 December 17 21:40 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much to you both for all this wonderful information.
I was wondering if there were any probate records available or any way of finding any living relatives of this family? I know we cannot give details of living family, but is there anywhere I could contact or do you have any ideas?
Thanks again
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 19 December 17 22:44 GMT (UK)
Here is the probate for Arthur Mawkes

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-892C-ZJJW?i=326&cc=1865481

Cheers Janette

Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 20 December 17 03:19 GMT (UK)
Marriage of Irene Gilbert [1921]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19210415.2.106?query=irene%20gilbert

Death of Susan Reynolds Gilbert [1932]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19320102.2.2.4?query=pendennis%20gilbert

Added:

Obituaries:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19320102.2.100?query=susan%20gilbert

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19320102.2.129?query=susan%20gilbert


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 20 December 17 03:47 GMT (UK)
Gilbert Golden wedding [1930]….

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19300329.2.2.5?query=george%20gilbert

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19300327.2.88?query=george%20gilbert


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 20 December 17 05:58 GMT (UK)
And a little more.......

Probate [1968] for Thomas George REYNOLDS-GILBERT

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=14776608


WW1 file: Arthur Edward REYNOLDS-GILBERT

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=20805464&digital=yes

WW1 file: John Reynolds GILBERT

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=16786007&digital=yes


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 20 December 17 06:11 GMT (UK)
Probate*: [1948] Alma Winifred REYNOLDS-GILBERT

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23002224

Probate: [1972] Arthur Edward GILBERT (also known as REYNOLDS-GILBERT)

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23013838

[*This may be available? @ familysearch.org]


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Wednesday 20 December 17 10:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much, all this information is very much appreciated. After so many years looking for this lady, to then have such comprehensive information about her life is fantastic. The newspaper articles are wonderful, such a fantastic resource for information.
Thank you so much again.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 20 December 17 14:58 GMT (UK)
Yes I thought the obituaries in particular might be helpful.   :D

I have sent several death notices by PM in respect of the Irene Richards mentioned in reply #39

[2012/4193   Richards   Irene   16 June 1911]

The funeral director may be able to provide additional family information.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 20 December 17 15:28 GMT (UK)
Death notices sent by PM.....

Marjorie Edith Irwin [2012] from reply #24

Jack Stanley Richards [2005] from reply #39


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 20 December 17 16:14 GMT (UK)
In an obituary from reply #43 mention is made of a daughter, Mrs. S. Ackeroyd of Whakatane. The name is proving difficult to find, apart from this reference.......

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19330429.2.6?query=s.%20ackeroyd

However death not found on NZ BDM.  ???

The following person would appear to be an obvious member of the family:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22912824


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 20 December 17 16:29 GMT (UK)
SPELLING!!

https://billiongraves.com/grave/Spedding-Akeroyd/17878472

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/163616602

1933/7406   Akeroyd   Mary Jane   84Y

1916/1944   Akeroyd   Spedding   77Y   

1978/45394   Akeroyd   Spedding   25 September 1890   

2002/10433   Akeroyd   Gilbert Spedding      20 February 1916


Minniehaha.   
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 20 December 17 16:50 GMT (UK)
More on the AKEROYD [the spelling of which has been shown above as Ackeroyd] family.......

Marriage:


1912/8254   Ann Davidson Reynolds   Gilbert   Spedding   Akeroyd

Death:

1990/46434   Akeroyd   Ann Davidson   2 November 1892


Children found to 100 year cut off:

1916/7113   Akeroyd   Gilbert Spedding   Ann Davidson   Spedding

1917/20962   Akeroyd   Herbert Lawrence   Ann Davidson   Spedding   -      

1913/29065   Akeroyd   Verety Rose   Ann   Spidding      

Death:

1990/51681   Akeroyd   Herbert Lawrence   6 August 1917

Marriage:

1934/8267   Verity Rose   Akeroyd   Harold Beggs   Johnston

Death:

1998/25657   Johnston   Verity Rose   9 October 1913


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Wednesday 20 December 17 20:36 GMT (UK)
Wonderful, thank you
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 21 December 17 02:58 GMT (UK)
More on reply #52.....

Death:

2002/10433   Akeroyd   Gilbert Spedding   20 February 1916


https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=14872210

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22716589

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22708851

Engagement announcement:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19400807.2.160.12?query=gilbert%20spedding%20akeroyd


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 21 December 17 03:12 GMT (UK)
Having got this far I'm not sure if this branch has been covered?.......

1887/9577   Akeroyd   Ruth    Mary Jane   Spedding   -   
1881/17568   Akeroyd   Christina   Mary Jane   Spedding   -   
1885/17670   Akeroyd   Frederica   Mary Jane   Spedding   -   
1878/17999   Akeroyd   Mary    Mary Jane    Spedding   -   
1890/13334   Akeroyd   Spedding Akeroyd   Mary Jane   Spedding   -   
1874/16611   Akeroyd   Clara Annie   Mary Jane   Spedding   -   
1871/17876   Akeroyd   Eliza Mary   Mary Jane   Spedding


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Thursday 21 December 17 12:16 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much. I was wondering if you could possibly find Lavinia Reynolds Gilbert married name Wilding,any children or death records for her. Thank you
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 21 December 17 20:50 GMT (UK)
NZ Marriage

Lavinia Reynolds GILBERT -- George William WILDING -- Year:  1914

-----
Deaths / Burials

@  Whangarei District Council website

http://www.wdc.govt.nz/FacilitiesandRecreation/Cemeteries/Pages/CemeteryDatabaseSearch.aspx

>  search on "Wilding"  returns 4 results

>  George William  /  Lavinia  /  Norma Lilian (their daughter)  / 
also Theodore Gilbert WILDING (bc 1913) who was the son of a Herbert Stanley WILDING and Ethel Lavinia nee BROWN.

    ~  Lu
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 21 December 17 20:57 GMT (UK)
Norma Lilian WILDING (bc 1915) was the only child of Lavinia and George William WILDING.  She died in 1926 aged 11 years.   :(

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NA19260503.2.13

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 21 December 17 20:59 GMT (UK)
The terribly sad passing of Norma Lilian WILDING.   :(

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NA19260503.2.26

    ~  Lu

Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Thursday 21 December 17 22:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks Lucy much appreciated but very sad indeed about their daughter, they lived to be so old too without their child very sad indeed.
Thanks again for this information
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 22 December 17 01:37 GMT (UK)
Some of this may be duplication......

Marriage:

1907/5043   Emily Harriet   Jones   Charles Ernest Reynolds   Gilbert

Children born prior to cut off date:

1911/13228   Gilbert   Ernest Reynolds    Emily Harriet   Charles Ernest Reynolds      

1913/22210   Gilbert   Doris Lavinia   Emily Harriet   Charles Ernest Reynolds      


Death:

1985/29737   Gilbert   Charles Ernest Reynolds   13 August 1888

Death:

1968/41337   Gilbert   Ernest Reynolds   60Y*

*Age incorrect if born in 1911.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 22 December 17 02:13 GMT (UK)
And a little more on this branch........

Death of a daughter, Phyllis Emily Reynolds VOSE nee GILBERT…….

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19320215.2.4?query=c.%20e.%20r.%20gilbert

1932/1890   Vose   Phyllis Emily   24Y

Birth:

1908/5370   Reynolds-Gilbert   Phyllis Emily   Emily Harriet   Charles Ernest

Marriage:

1929/10903   Phyllis Emily   Reynolds-Gilbert   Vernon Cecil Herbert   Vose

Burial details:

Phyllis Emily VOSE   24   Female   12/02/1932
Buried:   14/02/1932   Type:   Burial
Funeral Director:   Burrow   Last Address:   19 Lyon St, Frankton, Hamiton
Location:   Hamilton East Cemetery
BB-K-26

Death notice insertion by her husband:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19320213.2.4?query=phyllis%20vose

In memoriam notices……..

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19330211.2.6?query=phyllis%20vose


And the birth of another daughter:

1912/5588   Reynolds-Gilbert   Gladys Elsie   Emily Harriet   Charles Ernest

Her marriage:

1930/7981   Gladys Elsie   Gilbert   James   Wakefield

Her death:

2005/16143   Wakefield   Gladys Elsie   8 April 1912


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 22 December 17 03:03 GMT (UK)
Cemetery details [2005] for Gladys Elsie WAKEFIELD........

https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=0x63FDEA7C4CA789754DCFD04FE938CA88


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Janette on Friday 22 December 17 04:09 GMT (UK)
Cemetery details [2005] for Gladys Elsie WAKEFIELD........

https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=0x63FDEA7C4CA789754DCFD04FE938CA88


Minniehaha.

Death notice PM'ed

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 22 December 17 05:25 GMT (UK)
PM sent with contact names, address & telephone numbers for people mentioned in the death notice for Gladys Elsie WAKEFIELD.

Good luck....... :)


Minniehaha.





Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 22 December 17 12:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks again everyone this is all fantastic information. I have been putting all this information on to my tree, as it helps to keep tabs of where everyone fits in. Thank again.
 
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 22 December 17 20:59 GMT (UK)
Further to reply # 17........

Death:

2008/13678   Gilbert   Ivan Hansen Reynolds     25 May 1923


I have his newspaper death notice which I will forward by PM shortly. It however shows his name as Ivan Hansen REYNOLDS but as a 'transcript' I believe this is an error. The date of death shown here is 6.6.2008 and this ties in with the death registration above.

Details of the actual death notice would confirm that this is indeed Ivan Hansen Reynolds GILBERT....

http://www.amemorytree.co.nz/remembrance.php?personid=40811

However I have not found cemetery details. The service was held in Titirangi.


Divorce [1968]:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22750267


Minniehaha.


P. S. I have sent contact details re the family of the above-named.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 22 December 17 23:02 GMT (UK)
This thread has become very long but I don't think this has been covered?

From the Waikaraka cemetery records........

GILBERT, WALTER ED
Details   M: Died 28-01-1935: Aged 49:
Place   Waikaraka
Location   Area 1 Block A Lot No 21B
Remarks   transcribed inscription reads "In memory of Thomas Henry Rowe died 7 Jan 1940 Also his wife Mary Jane died 16 Mar 1938 And their dau Mabel died 3 Dec 1911 Also Walter Gilbert beloved husband of Ida Gilbert died 28 Jan 1935 ." NOTE different death date for Mary Jane 16-02-1937 (Jenson & Moore Eden Terrace)


With the known ROWE & GILBERT connection, perhaps Thomas Henry ROWE was a brother of Susan GILBERT nee ROWE?

1940/20684   Rowe   Thomas Henry   85Y

Death notice Thomas Henry ROWE [1940]…

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19400109.2.2.3?query=thomas%20henry%20rowe

In memoriam notice for his wife [died 1937]……

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19380317.2.3?query=mary%20jane%20rowe

Her death  notice:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19370318.2.2.2?query=mary%20jane%20rowe

Death:

1911/7438   Rowe   Mabel Blanch   27Y

Birth:

1884/358   Rowe   Mabel Blanch   Mary Jane   Thomas Henry

Death notice for Mabel Blanch

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19111205.2.2.2?query=mabel%20rowe

Bereavement notice:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19111211.2.2.5?query=mabel%20rowe

Death notice [1935] Walter Edward ROWE (name of wife & daughter mentioned)…

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19350129.2.2.3?query=walter%20gilbert

1935/12909   Gilbert   Walter Edward   49Y

Birth?

1885/6691   Gilbert   Walter Edward   Elizabeth   George

Minniehaha.


P. S. Have no idea as to why all the bolding has occurred...... ???
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Janette on Saturday 23 December 17 02:13 GMT (UK)
Further to reply # 17........

Death:

2008/13678   Gilbert   Ivan Hansen Reynolds     25 May 1923


I have his newspaper death notice which I will forward by PM shortly. It however shows his name as Ivan Hansen REYNOLDS but as a 'transcript' I believe this is an error. The date of death shown here is 6.6.2008 and this ties in with the death registration above.

Details of the actual death notice would confirm that this is indeed Ivan Hansen Reynolds GILBERT....

http://www.amemorytree.co.nz/remembrance.php?personid=40811

However I have not found cemetery details. The service was held in Titirangi.



Hi Minniehaha,

I suspect that as Morrisons did the funeral he may have been cremated at Morrisons premises.Both Morrisons and Davis FD's have their own cremators now and some records will be hard to find due to this,

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: Janette on Saturday 23 December 17 02:20 GMT (UK)

P. S. Have no idea as to why all the bolding has occurred...... ???

Blame it on the Christmas Grinch  :D :D :D :D :D

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 23 December 17 02:41 GMT (UK)
Part quote........

"Hi Minniehaha,

I suspect that as Morrisons did the funeral he may have been cremated at Morrisons premises.Both Morrisons and Davis FD's have their own cremators now and some records will be hard to find due to this,

Cheers Janette"



Thanks for reminding me about that Janette. So it probably wasn't my specs to blame after all.  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 23 December 17 05:06 GMT (UK)
Further to reply #15.......

Death:

1968/32125   Gilbert   Thomas George Reynolds   85Y

His marriage:

1907/4922   Matilda   Hansen   Thomas George Reynolds   Gilbert

Birth of one child found:

1908/19354   Gilbert   Trevor Thomas Reynolds   Matilda   Thomas George Reynolds

His marriage:

1933/6145   Effie Victoria   Nield    Trevor Thomas Reynolds   Gilbert

Birth of a daughter [1935]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19350204.2.2.1?query=trevor%20gilbert

Death of wife:

1979/39383   Gilbert   Effie Victoria   6 August 1908

Death of T. T. R. GILBERT:

2004/23469   Gilbert   Trevor Thomas Reynolds   10 October 1908


Death notices being sent by PM.

Mr. Trevor Thomas Reynolds GILBERT  was the recipient of the Queen's Service Medal [QSM].

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 23 December 17 05:47 GMT (UK)
Here is the link naming Mr. Gilbert receiving the QSM [2003].........

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=7930

Scroll down to "for Public Services".....


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Saturday 23 December 17 19:41 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much,all very interesting
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 23 December 17 19:47 GMT (UK)
Terrific response Nooshie - must have filled out your tree - loads of detail   ;D

Merry Christmas
Sandra  ;D
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: NooshieW on Saturday 23 December 17 23:04 GMT (UK)
Very much so, it has been a fantastic response and most of these names are now in my tree, thanks to all involved and Merry Christmas to all  ;D
Title: Re: Susan Rowe Jordan
Post by: CeeJayEss on Thursday 01 February 18 23:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Nooshie,
I'm new to this forum so  please excuse any lack of protocol.
I have been corresponding with your sister Judy since December about Susan and her Gilbert family. I have copied her several great photographs and other data. Most of the information in this forum about Susan I already have and am happy to share. Judy found me via my FindAGrave entry for Susan's gravestone at Waikaraka Cemetery in Auckland NZ where I live (with my partner who is directly related to Susan). Are you in touch with Judy?.
Regards,
Campbell Stanford
NZSG #11216