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Hoping someone would be able to do a marriage lookup at Woodhorn (near Ashlington in Northumberland). I am searching for a parish marriage record from 1828 at All Saints Church in Newcastle. If so, please contact me.
Much appreciated !
Thanks,
Patty
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It may be best if you post the details on here of the marriage you are after
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Details of requested record are:
John Scott born Oct. 1801 in Wallsend Northumberland, married Frances Moor born 1799 in Earsdon, Northumberland at All Saints Church in Newcastle on August 2, 1828. I have Frances parents as Thomas Moor and Margaret Blakey. Am looking for the parents of John Scott.
Thank you!
-Patty
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Parents names weren't included in marriage records at this time, sadly. They were only included on marriage certificates after 1837 when Civil registration began.
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Do you have John & Frances on census :-\
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Oh no! Well that creates a problem. Thanks for that information. Much appreciated. Back to the drawing board.
-Patty
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I do have them on all on the census. 1841, 1851, 1861, and John died 1870 as Frances is a widow in 1871. John Scott is such a common name, it has been difficult to find his exact parents.
-Patty
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Here's the marriage from the Bishops Transcripts
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l6q/
The witnesses are no help, they are Jos(iah) Pearson and William Dixon who appear frequently in the register - they are probably Churchwardens or other church officials pulled in to witness the ceremony
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Jen -
Thank you so much for your quick reply and expertise.
Much appreciated.
-Patty
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Is he the John Scott occupation Stationmaster or Rail & Gate keeper :-\
1861
John Scott age 60 born Walker
Frances age 58 bn Burradon
1851
John Scott 55 born Longbenton
Frances 51 bn Earsdon
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Rosie -
Yes that is my 3rd great grandparents. You found the right family.
-Patty
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Unfortunately the Wallsend records for c.1800 seem to be missing from the Bishops Transcripts.
This is a great shame because if there was a baptism at that time it would have been a Shute Barrington entry which would not only have given the names of the parents but also the parishes in which they were born ::)
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John Scott born Oct. 1801
How do you know he was born October 1801?
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Duplicate thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=783506.msg6381997#msg6381997
in this you give date of birth between 1796 and 1803, and birth place probably Longbenton, rather than what you've stated on here (birth October 1801 in Wallsend) :-\
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Jen -
After much researching (I found various John Scott's born to 3/4 different sets of parents) I have concluded through census records that he was born in 1801. One Ancestry.com family tree showed October 1801, so I am going with that until I can prove otherwise and his parents were shown as John Scott and Ann Gray/Grey.
Also found this:
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 John Scott born Oct 1 1801 to John Scott and Ann Gray/Grey and baptised in Wallsend on Nov 22 1801. To date I have these parents as his, but no further confirmation from any other records (marriage for example). Which would prove his parents were indeed John and Ann Gray/Grey.
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Is he the John Scott occupation Stationmaster or Rail & Gate keeper :-\
1861
John Scott age 60 born Walker
Frances age 58 bn Burradon
1851
John Scott 55 born Longbenton
Frances 51 bn Earsdon
Neither census give birth place as Wallsend :-\
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Yes, I know the census did not mention Wallsend. Perhaps the family member who gave the information did not know? My source is:
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name John Scott
Gender Male
Birth Date 01 Oct 1801
Baptism Date 22 Nov 1801
Baptism Place Wallsend,Northumberland,England
Father John Scott
Mother Ann Grey
FHL Film Number 95029
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Yes, I know the census did not mention Wallsend. Perhaps the family member who gave the information did not know?
Possibly :-\
Or equally possibly your John Scott did know where he was born, and the person you have settled on is from a totally different family? Scott is not an uncommon name.
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Yes, Scott is so common. That's why this is so difficult. I am also trying to collaborate with the many family trees posted to Ancestry.com
Thank you for your replies. :)
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I wonder if their daughter Eleanor was named after anyone. They seem to have named children 'Thomas' & 'Margaret' possibly after Frances's parents
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I looked back 2 generations and found No Eleanor. Hmmmm.... ?? Unless it is a middle name that I do not have for one of their family members.