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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: gogogadgetlegs on Friday 22 December 17 11:13 GMT (UK)
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:( :(Has anyone any ideas if it is possible to search prison records in the 1871 census Yorkshire?
I have a William Smith, Labourer, Age 34yrs & John Ennis Sawyer aged 21yrs both born East Riding, who where tried at Beverley Quarter Sessions 1868 and given a 5yrs Prison Sentence. It does not say which prison. Both burglarized house's in South Cliffe, East Yorkshire.
Any help would be much appereciated. I do have the entry from the court which is where i got my information from.
Thanking anyone in advance,
Gogogadgetlegs
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http://www.blacksheepancestors.com/uk/prisons.shtml may have useful stuff.
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Prisoners were recorded in institutional census returns and can be found in the usual way. Sometimes those in institutions were recorded by their initials rather than full names, though in my experience that applied more usually to asylums than prisons.
What is the source of your information about the conviction, snd what was the exact date of it?
I can't easily find any evidence of the existence of a John Ennis Sawyer b abt 1847 East Riding.
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Sorry - I now see you have the court entry.
If there is any more info than you have given us, it may help.
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I can't easily find any evidence of the existence of a John Ennis Sawyer b abt 1847 East Riding.
Or did you mean John Ennis, a sawyer?
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I've now found a record - John Ennis and William Smith, sentenced to 5 yrs penal servitude for burglary at the Winter Assizes held at York, 12 December 1868.
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It says William SMITH was 27 and a native of Whitehaven. ENNIS was from Ireland?
Maureen
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John Ennis was confined in Portsmouth Convict Prison at the time a licence for his release was granted on 30 November 1872.
The conviction details on the licence confirm this is the correct John Ennis.
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It says William SMITH was 27 and a native of Whitehaven.
In that case he may be the William Smith, labourer, 29 b Whitehaven, who in 1871 is a convict enumerated in Woking Invalid Convict Prison.
RG10/808/117/18.
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John Ennis was confined in Portsmouth Convict Prison at the time a licence for his release was granted on 30 November 1872.
The conviction details on the licence confirm this is the correct John Ennis.
Transcribed on A*try 1871 as John ERMIS (Portsmouth Prison):
1133/109/30
Well done,avm!
Maureen
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John Ennis was confined in Portsmouth Convict Prison at the time a licence for his release was granted on 30 November 1872.
The conviction details on the licence confirm this is the correct John Ennis.
He is enumerated in Portsmouth Convict Prison in 1871:
John Ennis, Convict, unm, 23, sawyer, b Ireland. (John "Ermis" on Anc)
RG10/1133/109/30
Oops - Maureen got there first :)
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ThanjK's to everyone who has replied to my query.
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William Smith married Harriet Worledge, in. Beverley 1893. At the time of his marriage he was a widr, living in Esk, Nr Tickton, a Blacksmith, Father Robert Smith also a Blacksmith.
He was quite a. Lad, and up at the Magistrates Court in Beverley on several occasions, for assault and drunken behaviour, plus non payment of monies owed to Harriet and his children by the Court.
He was found in fhe 1891 census in Beverley where he states he was born in South Cliffe, Yorkshire, which was where he committed his burglaries in 1868 and is a widower.
No 1st Marriage yet has ever been found or a Baptism.
I did find a baptism in Beverly St Mary in 1845 to a Robert Smith states in column born 1842 but wether this is him I do not know.
Phil