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Title: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: CES-genealogy on Friday 22 December 17 16:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone, Been trying to find my 3rd Great Grandfather.

His Son was John Tuplin Wright born 1860 in Louth, Lincolnshire.

George married a Frances ___, I know nothing of George or Frances and can't find a marriage for them or find them on census.

John Tuplin Wright is in the 1881 census but cant seem to find him till then.

Have a good Christmas everyone and thank you for your help.

Chris
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 22 December 17 16:29 GMT (UK)
WRIGHT, JOHN  TUPLIN     (no mothers maiden name)
1860  Dec Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 516

It looks as though he was probably illegitimate, do you have the certificate
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 22 December 17 16:33 GMT (UK)
Possibly John in 1861
RG09 / 2387 f69 p17
North Thoresby

Ann   Wright   Widow   58   bn Withern, Lincolnshire
John T Wright   Grandson   5 months bn Fulstow, Lincolnshire
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 22 December 17 16:41 GMT (UK)
1851  H0107 /2112 f534 p10

Ann Wright   48 (Widow) bn Withern, Lincolnshire
James Wright   son age 10 bn Kirby (sic), Lincolnshire
Frances Wright   dtr age 10 Kirby (sic), Lincolnshire
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: Geoff-E on Friday 22 December 17 16:42 GMT (UK)
There is a Frances WRIGHT with Ann (48) in the 1851 census.

I think perhaps a search for a TUPLIN (perhaps George) might be useful in 1861.

Beat me again Rosie :( ;)
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 22 December 17 16:44 GMT (UK)
And in 1871 possible listed as the son in law (stepson) ??  Living in Tetney

George Hanson    38
Frances Hanson    31 b Irby, Lincolnshire
Lucy Hanson 7
Elizabeth Hanson 4
James Hanson    3
George Hanson    10 Months
John Wright 10  b Fulstow, Lincolnshire
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 22 December 17 16:56 GMT (UK)
Could this be a marriage of Frances Wright to George Hanson in 1861??   :-\

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL1L-KYVV
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 22 December 17 17:04 GMT (UK)
Frances & James were baptised at Irby upon Humber 9 September 1840 -parents William & Ann
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 22 December 17 17:08 GMT (UK)
1861 Fanny Wright 20 servant born Irby

Jennifer
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 22 December 17 17:12 GMT (UK)
1841 Irby

William 40 ag lab
Ann 40
Eliza 15
William13
Joseph 10
Maria 8
Charlotte 5
Ann  4
James and Francis given as male 9 months all born in the county

Jennifer
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 22 December 17 17:13 GMT (UK)
1861 Fanny Wright 20 servant born Irby

Jennifer

And a George Anson (Hanson?)age 22 b Ravondale  is a servant (waggoner) in the same household :)
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: CES-genealogy on Friday 22 December 17 20:25 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone, and again a big thank you to everyone for your help.

I did think earlier when researching that John Tuplin Wright may be illegitimate as could not find anything about George Tuplin Wright.

I did find the census results that you have found, I really need to buy his certificate.

This is what it says on his marriage record:
                 
                       Surname    Forename         Grooms Father         Bride                  Brides Father

1887   19-May   Wright   John Tuplin   George Tuplin   Lyall   Rebecca      blank      Authorpe
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 23 December 17 03:36 GMT (UK)
Looking at the image of the marriage I notice that one of the witnesses was Lucy Hanson - possibly John's half sister??
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 23 December 17 07:11 GMT (UK)
I suspect that John's birth certificate will not name his father.  The GRO are currently running a 'PDF' service where you can obtain the details for £6 instead of the £9.25 a certificate would cost.  The only difference is the details are not embedded into a 'certificate' template.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 23 December 17 11:16 GMT (UK)
George Hanson could have been his father and the parents married after his birth and he gave a mixture of names when he married. Does the occupation match up to George Hanson's on the marriage certificate for John?

If there is not a father named you may find a baptism that may reveal his name?

Jennifer :)
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 23 December 17 11:27 GMT (UK)
In 1871 George Hanson is listed as an Ag Lab and at the time John married his father George was listed as a Labourer

Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 23 December 17 11:30 GMT (UK)
I doubt that George Hanson is his father. In the 1871 census when John is living with his mother and her husband George Hanson John is described as 'Son in Law' whereas the other children of the couple are noted as Son or daughter.

I have not yet found a baptism for John.
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: CES-genealogy on Saturday 23 December 17 11:32 GMT (UK)
I have just ordered his birth certificate as a pdf format so will have to wait to see what it says.

It will be interesting to see 
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 23 December 17 11:43 GMT (UK)
Let us know when it arrives  :)
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 23 December 17 12:47 GMT (UK)
I doubt that George Hanson is his father. In the 1871 census when John is living with his mother and her husband George Hanson John is described as 'Son in Law' whereas the other children of the couple are noted as Son or daughter.

I quite agree.

If HANSON had been his father, John would have used that surname. :)
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: CES-genealogy on Wednesday 03 January 18 10:52 GMT (UK)
Happy New Year Everybody,

I have just got the PDF certificate.

John Tuplin Wright, no father on birth and mother is Frances Wright.

So maybe when he got married he just made up a father using his names and then his step fathers name.

Thank you for your help.

Chrid
Title: Re: George Tuplin Wright
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 03 January 18 11:05 GMT (UK)
That sounds very possible  :)