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Title: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: GARLAND on Tuesday 26 December 17 22:03 GMT (UK)
hi
I am hoping someone might be able to help Malcolm  Edward Ellis born  Banbury oxford uk 1882 went to Canada abt 1912 joined Canadian army and it states he died
31 Oct 1918 .as below



Malcolm Edward

Last name
Ellis

Birth year
1882

Age
36

Death year
1918

Death date
31 Oct 1918

Number
14423

Rank
Gunner

Regiment
Canadian Field Artillery

Grave reference
In east part.

Cemetery or memorial
Helmdon (St. Mary Magdalene) Churchyard

Burial country
United Kingdom

Additional information
Son of William Patterson Ellis and Annie Jane Ellis, of 304, Banbury Rd., Oxford. Born at Banbury, Oxon.

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and then I found this below dated 1920 which got me puzzled ( I know Malcolm dad was irish and his mum born uk )

British & Irish Roots Collection Transcription

 

First name(s)
Malcolm E

Last name
Ellis

Sex
Male

Age
27

Birth year
1883

Birth place
England

Nationality
American

Origin country
England

Year
1920

Destination country
United States

Town
Rochester Ward 11

County
Monroe

State
New York

Country
United States

Father's birth place
Ireland

Father's birth country
Ireland

Mother's birth country
England

Source dataset
Us Census 1920


any info most welcome amny thanks m
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 December 17 22:35 GMT (UK)
Just in case you haven't seen it - this is the link to the digitalised file of Canadian Attestation Papers for Malcolm Edward Ellis. 228 Woodstock Road. Banbury Oxford England. born 17 December 1882 -
 Builder. Single. Had served with the Oxford Light Infantry. Died of cardiac Asthma. Next of kin W P Ellis - same address as Malcolm. Enlisted 12 August 1914 Calgary (page 27)  Signed up 24 September 1914 - However, page 19 gives the latest address as Mr W P Ellis, 304 Banbury Road. Oxford. Assisgned pay went to Mrs Cicely Turner, 10 Waterloo Road. Bedford. $20 per month starting 1 st january 1916 - Loads more info on the second link...............46 pages.....

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=377617

Digital Format may taker a while to load but worth waiting for.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B2886-S021

Sandra

Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 December 17 22:41 GMT (UK)
Gunner Malcolm Edward Ellis

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/390314

http://www.helmdon.com/history/inscriptions_index.htm

FIND A GRAVE

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100455871

Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: GARLAND on Tuesday 26 December 17 22:44 GMT (UK)
hi Sandra 
that's great many thanks for your time ,
my friend will be really happy with your findings
 cheers m
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 December 17 22:46 GMT (UK)
Probate Malcolm Edward Ellis - dies 31 October 1918 - Probate - 24 December 1919 - London England.
Malcolm of St Hildas Westbourne Road West Kirby - died 31 October 1918 - at Eydon Hospital Northamptonshire - probate London 24 December to Arthur Robert Ellis - produce broker and John Turner ironmonger. Effects 4083  6  s   3 d

Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 December 17 22:47 GMT (UK)
hi Sandra 
that's great many thanks for your time ,
my friend will be really happy with your findings
 cheers m

You're very welcome. Pleased to have helped.

Regards
Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: GARLAND on Tuesday 26 December 17 22:48 GMT (UK)
hi Sandra  my friend just said brilliant and thanks sooooooo much as it answeres a lot of question  :) :)
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 December 17 22:52 GMT (UK)
There was a border crossing USA to Canada for Malcolm Ellis born England aged 29 years - farmer in England. had lived in the USA for 4 years - Rochester NY - travelling to Alberta.

Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 December 17 22:54 GMT (UK)
1910 US Census - West Avenue Rochester Ward 11, Monroe, New York. Living with the Dawe family

Harry W Dawe   38 Flora L Dawe   31 Harry W Dawe Jr.   9
Pierre A Gagnon   31 Emilia S Gagnon 36
Malcolm E Ellis   27 Born 1883 England. Imm 1908. Boarder. Single. Builder.Alien.
Elmer Updegraph 27 Hazel Updegraph 20
Edward Van Zandt 27
Genevieve M Renington 26

The occupation matches 1901 UK Census.

Sandra


Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 December 17 23:06 GMT (UK)
New York passenger List - Malcolm Ellis - born 1883 Banbury England - travelling Liverpool to New York arriving 22 May 1908 - on the Carmania - occupation surveyor - last permanent residence Birmingham - friend Mrs Corbett. 94 Gomer Road Birmingham - going to Almira NY (probably Elmira NY)  Friend Mr A P Morrow 5023 West Church Street Almira (Elmira)

Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 December 17 23:20 GMT (UK)
This is the person Malcolm was going to in Elmira NY - 1910 census 575 W Church St Elmira

Alicsondier (Alexander) P Morrow 55 years. Born NY. Both Parents born ireland. President of Manufacturing Co.
Susa C Morrow   51
Mable F Morrow   28
Mary E Morrow   12

Alexander married Susan Crane

Checked 1915 New York census but Malcolm was not with the family

Alexander P Morrow   60
Susa C Morrow   56
Mabel F Morrow   30
Mary Ethel Morrow   17
Anna A Malloy   27
Mary P Woodruff 21

Perhaps Malcolm went to work for the company A P Morrow was President of.

andra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 December 17 23:23 GMT (UK)
Interesting snippets -

Coaster brake invented by A P Morrow

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l76/

https://www.google.co.uk/patents/US611073

Bicycles brought A.P. Morrow to Elmira in 1895 when the Eclipse Bicycle Co. moved here from Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania. Morrow was superintendent of the plant and inventor of the Morrow coaster brake. He left Eclipse in 1905 to establish his own business. In 1907, the Morrow Manufacturing Co. was organized in Elmira and capitalized at $25,000. His son, J. Edwin Morrow, was a partner, and they manufactured parts and supplies for automobiles and bicycles. Originally on LaFrance Street in 1909, the company moved to South Main Street and built a new plant in 1910 manufacturing machine parts, including orders from Glenn Curtiss, who was building airplanes in Hammondsport...............etc etc

http://www.stargazette.com/story/news/local/twin-tiers-roots/2017/09/22/dawn-auto-industry-elmira/689930001/

Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: GARLAND on Tuesday 26 December 17 23:27 GMT (UK)
brilliant thanks for all the extra info will sit and study it all tomorrow with my friend  , thanks Sandra you been so helpful
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 December 17 23:31 GMT (UK)
Interesting to find who he went to see in Elmira - nice to have some back ground


Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 December 17 23:53 GMT (UK)
Notice the Will on page 45 of the digital record............

In the event of my death - I give my collar and hat badges to my cousins Amy Kathleen and Mildred Ellis.  Any money due to me for Military Service I give to my father W P Ellis 304 Banbury Road Oxford. My will is in the hands of Fortescue and Sons Banbury Oxon which I wish carried out as directedbut I wish to be paid out of my estate 50 to John Turner of Waterloo Road Bedford for services rendered.

Private M E Ellis No 14423
7 May 1915  C.  F.  A    D. A Park  1st C E F

(It was Cicely Turner who the $20 per month went to - on an earlier page)

Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: GARLAND on Wednesday 27 December 17 10:27 GMT (UK)
hi Sandra  my friend is amazed about the amount of info you found he really didn't exspect to find out much and now he is over the moon may thanks again and as you said its good to have some  back ground it makes it so much more interesting
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 27 December 17 10:36 GMT (UK)
Your friend is very welcome, pleased to have helped him.

Noticed a FIND A GRAVE entry for Malcolm Edward Ellis  also had his brother listed - Arthur Fairweather Warren Ellis -

St Mary Magdalene Churchyard  Helmdon, South Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire.

Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 27 December 17 10:41 GMT (UK)
Probate for Arthur Fairweather Warren Ellis who passed away 21 September 1907 - probate Oxford England - 27 November 1907 -

Arthur Fairweather Warren Ellis  of "Pinewook" Wokingham Surrey (gentleman) died 21 September 1907 - Probate Oxford 27 November 1907 to Malcolm Edward Ellis builder and William Bayley Parker analytical chemist - Effects 3979   1 s  3 d   Resown 4229  1s  3d.

Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 27 December 17 10:47 GMT (UK)
If Sister Mary K Ellis never married  -  - possible Mary Kathleen Ellis 8 May 1889 - June 1978 - Wandsworth Greater London - volume 15 page 1582

Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 27 December 17 10:51 GMT (UK)
1901 Fountain House Helmdon, Northamptonshire,

William P Ellis   55 Living on own means
Gertrude B Ellis   31
Malcolm E Ellis   18 Builders Apprentice.
Kathleen M Ellis   11
Margaret V Ellis   9
John P Ellis   11 months
Ethel M Reay   23 Govenors Domestic.
Ninnone A Quinney   19 General Domestic Servant.
Bertha Southam   14 Nursemaid.

RG12 Piece 1185 Folio 10 Page 14

A couple more children added by 1911 1 son and a daughter.
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: GARLAND on Wednesday 27 December 17 10:54 GMT (UK)
hi Sandra

thanks for that some of this info I did already have and I see that Malcolm,s half sister (mary Kathleen or sometimes known as Kathleen mary ) she was left a lot of money by her mum and her dad in their wills so she ended up a very rich teacher
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 27 December 17 10:55 GMT (UK)
Probate for William Patterson Ellis of 124 Nightingale Lane Wandsworth Common Surrey died 10 July 1928 - administration with will Oxford 3 September to Mary Kathleen Ellis (spinster)  Effects 1378  17 s 6 d.

Gertrude beatrice Ellis passed away 17 August 1924 - probate 24 September 1929 - Effects  1337  19s  8d

Sandra

Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: GARLAND on Wednesday 27 December 17 13:17 GMT (UK)
hi Sandra 
just had a quick read of the 46 page  Digital Format , fascinating to read thanks
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 27 December 17 13:26 GMT (UK)
It has taken sometime for the service files to be digitalised - Latest box digitized - Box 9059 and last name Smith. Something like 532,447 of 640,000 files are available online at the moment.  Prior to this people were buying these files at so many $ per page - so nice to have all that detailed info for free.

Sandra
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: GARLAND on Wednesday 27 December 17 13:39 GMT (UK)
hi Sandra
being digitalised is a brilliant idea and good that its free , on the findmypast on the 1939 register its a dear way of looking up households  but the price is gradually coming down   , I am looking forward also for the 1921 census to come out a petition was sign about 2 years back to get it put on line but we are still waiting ,(( on saying that I exspect it will be dear to start off with
Title: Re: grave of Malcolm Edward Ellis
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 27 December 17 13:57 GMT (UK)
Did I read the 1921 wouldn't be released until January 2022  ???

Samdra