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I am struggling with the children of Edward Richards born 1826 in Tennessee. I am told his wife was Elizabeth Mooney and they married in 1843 in Wilson, Tennessee. When Julius Vance Richards, one of the children died, it shows his mother's name as Elizabeth Parker.
The children were
John R or B Richards born 1854 Tennessee
William E Richards born 1856/1857 Alabama
Julius Vance Richards born 12.05.1859 Alabama and have his marriage details
M.A. Richards (Female) born 1861 Alabama
L.S.E. Richards (Female) born 1867 Alabama
Looking for confirmation of precise birth dates and if possible who and when they married and where.
Like to know what the girls names are, so I can then look for their details.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Frustrating when they only used initials ???
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Julius Vance Richards - 1859 - 1951
Burial - Greenwood Cemetery Montgomery, Montgomery County, Alabama.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/70755380
wife Elizabeth S Richards - 20 May 1864 - 31 March 1916
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/70755316/elizabeth-s-richards
Sandra
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Julius Richards - has a convict record - born 1858 - sentenced 28 November 1916 Montgomery Alabama. Robbery. 1 year. released 25 september 1917.
Sandra
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Father Edward Richards -28 September 1926 - 3 March 1876 - FIND A GRAVE
Burial - Morning View Cemetery Ozark, Dale County, Alabama.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/66365624
Sandra
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On a US City Directory Entry 1913 Montgomery Alabama - Julius V Richards (Elizabeth S) cabinet maker - h 23 Sayre. Mary Richards - cashr - M Sabel & Sons - b 23 Sayre and S Edward Richards repr - W A May 23 Sayre. Allie Richards - steno - Loeb - Hdw Co - b 23 Sayre.
Sandra
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Thank you Sandra, yet again.
John R. Richards born 1856 in Tennessee married Laura L ? she was born 1859 in Alabama. They had a son, William E.Richards b 1879 in Troy, Pike, Alabama.
Would really like to know the christian names of M.A. Richards born 1861 Alabama and her sister L.S.E. Richards born 1867 in Alabama. Their parents were Elizabeth & Edward Richards.
Thank you for the info on Julius Vance Richards, which is my connection, through Allie.
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Julius Richards - has a convict record - born 1858 - sentenced 28 November 1916 Montgomery Alabama. Robbery. 1 year. released 25 september 1917.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l7j/
The Montgomery Times
Montgomery, Alabama
Wednesday, June 15, 1921 - Page 7
Notice is hereby given that application will be made to the Governor and Board of Pardons for the pardon or parole of J. V. Richards, convicted in Montgomery County, for the offense of murder in the second degree, on November 28, 1916
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Fascinating. Did he get a pardon.
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The Prattville Progress
Prattville, Alabama
Thursday, April 06, 1916 - Page 5
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/12486685/
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Was he sentenced.
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The father Edward Richards had died 1876, so I think this is the family 1880 Census still in Ozark, Dale County Alabama
Ann Richards 53 born NC
Martha 18 born Al parents born TN/NC
Laura 13 born Al parents born TN/NC
His wife is EA in 1870 so possibly Elizabeth Ann Richards nee?
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Birmingham, Alabama, City Directory, 1924 - Julius V Richards - Birmingham Alabama - mach - Hardie - Tynes Mfg Co - r 1106 S 15th
Sandra
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Thank you. I at least now have the widow Richards and her 2 single daughters in Ozark. I feel sure that Elizabeth Mooney was the girls mother. The confusion arises on the death certificate for Julius Vance Richards who died 09.05.1951, where it shows his mother as Elizabeth Parker.
Have found Julius V Richards in the 1880 census living with his brother and wife in Troy, Pike, Alabama.
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Was he sentenced.
It would appear so. According to the article about application for a pardon I posted, he was convicted November 28, 1916 of 2nd degree murder.
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Birmingham, Alabama, City Directory, 1924 - Julius V Richards - Birmingham Alabama - mach - Hardie - Tynes Mfg Co - r 1106 S 15th
Sandra
This Julius V Richards is Julius's son Julius V Richards Jr who married Alma Potts and then eventually moves to Georgia after his 1st wife Alma died in 1920. He is listed as machinist in the records below.
Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ42-TPX
1910 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKQ1-1XL
WWI Draft: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K3PZ-QNC
Alma's death: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JD2Z-FP2
1920 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MX83-VDX
1930 Census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3HQ3-DN2
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Fascinating. Did he get a pardon.
I don't know. But when he did get out he moved to Louisiana and then eventually to Ohio where he died in 1951. He had children living in both places so that is who I assume he went to live with after he got out of prison.
His daughter Mrs. T. N. Evans was the informant on his Death certificate.
DC: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X6BM-V5D
The Akron Beacon Journal
Akron, Ohio
Wednesday, May 09, 1951 - Page 40
Just close the clipped article that someone else has saved and then you can pan over to the obit for Julius V. Richards. His obit is in the first column on the far left side of the page, about half way down.
Obit: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l7s/
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Many thanks for the information. I had found Alma Potts who was married to Julius Vance Richards Jr.
I am now trying to find the connection between Helen Emily Pooley and Allie (nee Richards) Matthews.
Helen was born 02.01.1925 and married Major Dellmont Pooley. Helen was the niece of Allie Richards.
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Thank you for all your help, which has now enabled me to put together a family tree.
Last question
I have Annie Richards born Alabama 1898 and her sister
Julia Richards, born Alabama 1901
One of the above married T.N.Evans & the other married B.W. Rogers
In 1951 both of the above were living in Akron
I have found Anne R Evans married to Thomas H Evans in the 1930 census, living in Akron. Not 100% sure this is Annie Richards ?
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This must be the 1930 census you mean - Orlando Ave Akron, Summit, Ohio.
Thomas H Evans 36 Anne R Evans 31
Thomas H Evans 10 Richard A Evans 5
Willard H Evans 38
Julia Parker 27
Sandra
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Under Evens on anc in 1920 N Howard St Akron Ward 1, Summit, Ohio.
Thomas H Evens 26 Ane R Evens 21 born Alabama
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Anne R Evans - 1898 - 2 July 1987
Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas.
PLOT Section 3 Site 871
Husband Thomas H Evans - 1894 - 1979
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/3023184/thomas-h-evans
Sandra
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Hi Sandra, that ticks all the boxes, as the date on the headstone for Anne R, are her exact birth date.
Just left with Julia who we know married B.W. Rogers
I have also found Glenn B Richards, born 1904. In the 1920 census he is an inmate in Jefferson, Alabama. Cannot find anything after this date.
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Michigan Marriage - Mr Bascom Glenn Richards born 1904 Alabama - Father J V and mother Elizabeth S DeShazo - 2 June 1943 - Detroit, Wayne, Michigan - spouse Mabelle Moore
Sandra
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Interesting 1940 census Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts - Bascom G Richards - born 1906 Alabama - divorced - musician - lived in New York 1935 - ???
Sandra
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Chattanooga, Tennessee, City Directory, 1933 - Bascom G Richards - musician - 314 W 5th Chattanooga, Tennessee. spouse - Sessell T Richards
Chattanooga, Tennessee, City Directory, 1935 - Bascom G Richards - musician - 806 Spring Apt 26
Chattanooga, Tennessee. spouse Sessell T Richards
Sandra
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New York Passenger List - Bascom G Richards - born 1904 Alabama and aged 49 years - Havan Cuba to New York arriving 27 April 1953 - on the Oriente. address 330 W 101 St New York - also travelling wife May Richards - aged 49 years - her address given as 217 E 12 th St New York.
Both departed New York 17 April 1953 - Oriente - 217 E 12 th Street New York - (Bascom born Prattville Alabama - May was born Brooklyn)
Sandra
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Noticed an earlier passenger list - Washington, Passenger and Crew Lists - Bascom R Richards - 41 years 1 month - born 18 February 1904 Prattville Alabama. Addres 261 85 th Street NYC
Many more passenger lists...........
Sandra
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Bascom G Richards - 18 February 1904 - Passed away June 1982 - Last Residence 10036 New York.
Sandra
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I never knew that the B in Glenn B Richards stood for Bascom. As always you have surpassed all expectations. Just Julia Richards / B.W.Rogers to find
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New York City, Marriage License Indexes, 1907-1995 - another marriage 25 th September 1948 - May Seesselberg. License Number 20369
Sandra
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Can't see anything more on this entry ??? - Julia Rogers - 1900 - 6 February 1967 - Birmingham Alabama. aged 67 years -
Sandra
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Yes the dates work for Julia. Had hoped she would turn up in the 1940 Census, living in Akron, Ohio, as she was there in 1951
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There is no Julia Evans with the birth date 22 August 1901 listed on the SSDI which was fully up and running by 1962/62. So perhaps she had passed away before then. Also tried any Julia with that birth date and nothing showed.
Sandra
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It is strange, as I have got all the other children of Elizabeth & Julius Richards Snr. and their respective partners. She could have another christian name. In some of the census records it shows Glenn B Richards and then you find the correct information for Bascom Glenn Richards. A brick wall to be knocked down, in the future.
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Sorry, Anne R Richards is married to Thomas Evans, which leaves Julia married to B.W.Rogers :)
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Last question
I have Annie Richards born Alabama 1898 and her sister
Julia Richards, born Alabama 1901
One of the above married T.N.Evans & the other married B.W. Rogers
In 1951 both of the above were living in Akron
I have found Anne R Evans married to Thomas H Evans in the 1930 census, living in Akron. Not 100% sure this is Annie Richards ?
These two articles make the connections and gives their husband's names.
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The Akron Beacon Journal
Akron, Ohio
Wednesday, May 27, 1942 - Page 18
Miss Colwell, whose engagement to Lieut. Thomas H. Evans, jr., was announced recently, was honored at the tea given Wednesday by Lieutenant Evans' mother, Mrs. Thomas H. Evans, at her home, 436 Orlando av. Guests were received from 3 to 5 p. m. Lieutenant Evans' aunt, Mrs. Bruce Rogers, 500 N. Portage Path, gave a luncheon for Miss Colwell on Friday.
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The Akron Beacon Journal
Akron, Ohio
Thursday, September 08, 1932 - Page 6
As a farewell courtesy to her sister. Mrs. Thomas H. Evans, 436 Orlando av., who is leaving to spend the winter at Miami, Fla., Mrs. Bruce W. Rogers, 682 W. Market St., win entertain with a buffet supper party at her home Friday evening.
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There are tons of articles about the two of them & their familes in the Akron papers as well as pictures of them and some of their children.
Julia's name was "Jule", not Julia. She died in 1985.
SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V93F-M32
OHDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VKKH-STY
Obit:
The Akron Beacon Journal
Akron, Ohio
Sunday, May 05, 1985 - Page 88
Just close the clipped article that someone else has saved and then you can pan over to the obit for Jule J (Mrs. B.W. Sr.) Rogers. 2nd column from the right side.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l87/
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Excellent RJ - "Jule" - no wonder she didn't pop up for me. ::) Great result Lance and lots of info for you to add to your tree.
Happy New Year
Sandra ;D
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Married twice - Julia Richards - first marriage to Oscar M Johnson 8 January 1921 Montgomery Alabama
Sandra
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Marriage of her som BWR (born 14 August 1930) in 1953 gave parents as Jule Johnson and Bruce W Rogers.
Sandra
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Thank you all for your very much appreciated guidance, which now enables me to move forward and in some cases take this tree into the 2000's.
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Bruce W Rogers - 1897 - passed away 6 August 1969 Akron, Summit, Ohio - aged 72 years
Certificate 080660
Sandra
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The son George W Rogers - passed away 16 December 2010
Parents Bruce W. and Jule J. Rogers.
Sandra
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Obituary for George W Rogers born 1936 - with photograph
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/ohio/obituary.aspx?n=george-w-rogers&pid=147194601
Sandra
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California Death Index - Rosalyn Rogers - 8 September 1928 Ohio - 30 January 1997 - San Diego -
mothers maiden name Richards - Father Rogers.
Last Residence 92107 San Diego, San Diego, California.
Sandra
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Thomas H Evans Jnr - born 5 March 1920 Summit Ohio passed away 22 May 1986 Bexar Texas.
FIND A GRAVE
Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas.
Spouse - Kathryn C Evans - 1920 - 1985
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/3023213/kathryn-c-evans
Sandra
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Richard A Evans (6 June 1924) married Eleanor Church Smith - 29 December 1948 - aged 43 years
Richard A Evans - 1924 - 23 December 1967 Akron Summit. Certificate 96989
Sandra
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Thomas H Evans Jnr - born 5 March 1920 Summit Ohio passed away 22 May 1986 Bexar Texas.
FIND A GRAVE
Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas.
Spouse - Kathryn C Evans - 1920 - 1985
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/3023213/kathryn-c-evans
Sandra
Thomas H Evans Jr.
DC: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l8a/
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His wife Kathryn C. Evans.
The Akron Beacon Journal
Akron, Ohio
Saturday, December 21, 1985 - Page 30
Just close the clipped article that someone else has saved and then you can pan over to the obit for Kathryn Colwell Evans. Far left column.
Obit: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l89/
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Thank you so much. Last brick wall, Mary Eleanor Hill born Montgomery ALB 1922 to Mary Richards & Robert G Hill. Known as Eleanor, by her sister, not Mary. She married someone called Petrey, but I cannot find anything.
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The lady was still living when her sister Helen Emily Pooley passed away in 2013
http://legacyfuneralcare.com/obituary/helen-emily-pooley/
Sandra
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Perhaps this was her husband (needs checked out) FIND A GRAVE
John Mobley Petrey - 18 August 1927 - 1 September 2013
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/129128184/john-mobley-petrey/photo
Sandra
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Hi Sandra. I had seen her sisters orbit and just wanted to see if I could find Eleanor's marriage date.
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We have to treat her as a living person at the moment and cannot name her on here.
Sandra
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Sandra that is great and puts the icing on the cake. Great finish to 2017.
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Note Dates and locations.
John M Petrey (note where issued & DOB)
SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27Q3-H7L
F.A.G.: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVP9-3174
Note his father's name
1940 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4SC-65D
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Public records John Matthew Petrey ( note possible relatives & DOB)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KPMX-1KY
Note DOB on possible realtive Eleanor. Middle initial "H" (Hill?)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KPMX-BTY
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It appears they married in 1955
The Orlando Sentinel
Orlando, Florida
Sunday, June 19, 2005 - Page K15
PETREY 50 YEARS John and E*** Petrey will celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary June 21, 2005. John was serving in the Air Force, stationed at Myrtle Beach, and E**** was a beautician in San Diego when they met. They were married in Yuma, Arizona and celebrated their honeymoon in San Diego, California. They made their home and raised their son J*** in San Diego and Hemet, California before retiring to Winter Park, Florida. Each day of their marriage John and E*** give praise to God for choosing them to be each other's partner in marriage. And all who have been a part of their lives share in their love and celebrate this very special occasion with them.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l8d/
Note exert for sister Helen Emily Pooley's obit.
"Helen’s nursing career in San Diego began at Sharp Memorial Hospital in 1955 where she was instrumental in the opening of its Labor and Delivery Department."
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Thank you, all the information straightens the Petrey family connection out. It has been a most interesting journey.
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Sandra and Lance,
Please be in touch with me. I just joined 18 April 2020. I have originals photos and am scanning them. Came from Mary Richards Hill, my grandmother, by way of my Aunt "Sis"/aka Ellie Hill-Petrey in Chattanooga, TN. Include Bascom Glenn Richards, J. V. Richards & E. Sophronia Richards, Ed Richards w/Allie Matthews Mildred Alma and Chas. Matthews.
Thanks.
Judy Hill-Sullivan
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Hi Judy,
Welcome to RootsChat
I wasn't related to anyone mentioned in this thread but just helped with thr research where I was able.
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra.