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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Staffordshire => England => Staffordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Dirtypaw on Friday 29 December 17 04:47 GMT (UK)
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Happy holidays all ...if your having them ..My 3 x Great Grandfather CHARLES EDWARD PUGH alias...CHARLEY WALSH retired acting in 1875 was reported to be opening a refreshment room in WOLVERHAMPTON ...could any elaborate or supply photo or confirmation ..original source Trove Aust ...Thanks Craig
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Just to help refine where the refreshment house might have been in Wolverhampton, looking at your previous thread on the family ( http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=781312.msg6365496#msg6365496 ) are they listed as below in 1881 as living at 4 North St Wolverhampton https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-MJQY The surname could well be Pugh on the image
Charles is listed as a Refreshment House Keeper And Contractor
Kay
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Thanks very much Kay i should have realised it would be PUGH filed under LEIGH still getting my head around typos and anomalies at least we have confirmation that he reported on 1981 Census that Refreshment House Keeper and Contractor was his occupation at census .... Ta Craig
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Hi Dirtypaw,
Kelly's Directory of 1876 lists Charles Pugh, dining rooms, Corporation Street, Wolverhampton. He is also listed in the 1880 Kelly's Directory with the same details, but his name is listed as Charles Walsh Pugh.
Corporation Street is just off North Street.
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JOOL your a gem ...CHARLES often changed name during his life depending on circumstances...i just looked through a listing of pubs and census ...could not believe how many pubs beer houses etc no names though...now i know why ...your help is appreciated Craig
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Just had a quick look on the 1901 ordnance map I've got and can see corporation street but noting signalling a pub of some sorts. I thought that sometimes they had a "ph" by the buildings for public house but not on this one apparently. I'll attach the pic of where it was f that's any help to you.... :) Lisa
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Hang on I don't think that's worked ::) I'll try another way...
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Hi Lisa thanks for your efforts ...from what i have read the period in question 1875 to 1880 was one of transition and by 1901 the rooms could have gone ..ta Craig
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No worrries...yeah I think they knocked down a large part of what was considered "slum" areas - not sure if that road came under that but probably as it was in the centre of town.
Lisa
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I sometimes search the welsh newspapers archive - have u tried them? You'd be surprised what non welsh news pops up in them
http://newspapers.library.wales/
Worth a go maybe
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Thanks Lisa will give it a try...Craig
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4 North Street is still there its now Popworld but Corporation Street has changed a bit it might have been where the Civic Hall is now and you have the Magistrates Court on the other side
Willow x
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Hi Willow x just looking at these areas again without any luck ...it seems that each revolution,war,natural disater etc a change has occured....i was thinking if the civic theatre or other major building was there prior the rooms may have been inside and not an entity on there own .....thanks for your efforts Craig
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I'll have a look next time I go that way
Willow x
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Willow it seems the centre is 79 years old and undergoing refurbishment lets hope they have maintained some pictures of the past 1876 to 1880 ......would be great when next your passing ...Thanks Craig
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Hi all my friend Margaret has provided me with details regards the subject rooms ..it appears that it was THE BRITISH WORKMAN AND TEMPERANCE COFFEE ROOMS at 4 North st Wolverhampton ...Connected with the Church of England Temperance Society...thanks Margaret for your assist....could consider complete unless a photo turns up ...thanks all Craig