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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cornwall => England => Cornwall Lookup Requests => Topic started by: lrashford on Friday 29 December 17 22:51 GMT (UK)
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Hello all! I hope you are well.
I have come to a standstill with my research of the Barrett family tree. It’s a bit of a mess and I don’t know where to go from here.
I was going to get a birth certificate for Joshua Barret 1822 but the register doesn’t go back that far.
I was wondering if anyone could check what I’ve done so far is right? The dates are a bit muddled up and even though they married young, I’m sure they didn’t marry at 11?
Sorry I can’t be much help, I’ve got myself in a right pickle and I keep hitting a brick wall.
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Hi lrashford.
So Joshua 1822 is your confirmed Ancestor?
Who/when did he marry?
Do you have the M/C to establish his Fathers name/occp?
Trish :)
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Ok found is Baptism on Anc 1822
Parents married 28-Mar 1813 Kilkhampton
William Barrett may have remarried;
11 April 1831 Kilkhampton, William BARRETT, Widower* to Mary MITCHELL
Looks good;
Burial;
JOANNA Barrett 3 July 1828 Kilkhampton age 39
Residence Scadgell
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Looking at Non Conformist Baptisms on CornwallOPC we have to William/Joanna at Kilkhanpton;
JOSHUA 1822
THOMAS 1826, William a Labourer, abode Stibb*
ELIZA 1828
Ordinary Baptisms we have;
DORCAS 1819 Kilkhampton, William a Labourer (has dr, presume a daughter)
Cant find any 1813-1818
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1851 Census
Stibb Village,
Kilkhalmpton
Wm Barrett, 60, Widr, Ag Lab, born Kilkhanpton
William Barrett, 13, Son, born Kilkhampton
1841 Census
William Barrett, 50
Mary Barrett, 40
Fanny Barrett, 9
Sally Barrett, 4
Willam Barrett, 3****** as per 1851 Census
Reg District is Stratton**
Birth Reg Gro Index;
BARRETT, WILLIAM, Mothers mn MITCHELL*****
GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in STRATTON Volume 09 Page 286
So to summarize;
William did marry Joanna Wood 1813
Joshua was bapt 1822
Joanna died 1828
William remarried to Mary Mitchell 1831
1841/1851 Census I have posted for you and we know it is the right William as William Jnr 1838 has Mothers mn as Mitchell on his Birth Reg.
Also the mention of Stibb on 1826 Bapt of Thomas matches where William/Mary are living in 1841 Census.
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I see that Joshua married Jane Ellery 1865 in Wales and was a Widower.
They also had a Son that died;
NAME: Joshua Ellery Barrett
BIRTH: abt 1869
DEATH: Jan 1870 - Bedminster, Somerset
Its annoying that Joshua was away at sea and the only Census je seems to appear on in 1861;
Joshua Berrett, Master, Mar, born Kilkhampton, Cornwall
I am pretty sure this is his 1st Wife in Bedminster, Somerset in 1861 Census.
Mary Ann BARRETT, 38, Wife, Mar, Mariners Wife at Sea, born Cornwall.
F/S has a 1853 Marriage Gloucestershire to a Mary Ann Shapton, Joshuas Father William*
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A lot to take in so get back to me when you can.
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Thank you so much, Trish!
I found Joshua Jrs birth certificate which states his mum was married before.
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I just don’t have an exact date for Joshua Srs birth
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Ok.
So Jane was a Widow.
(will look into that later)
Possible 1st Wife for Joshua Snr Mary Ann is living at 10 Harford St in 1861 Census
Joshua Jnr born 1873 has his Mothers residence as 30 Harford St.
1861 Census has Joshua Berrett Snr (sic) born c 1821 Kilkhampton, Cornwall
So 1871 we have;
Caroline Hunt 48
Jane Barrett 30
Ellen Barrett 10
Charles Barrett 1
1881 we have;
James Ellery 66
Eleanor Ellery 64
Charles E. Barrett 11
Joshua Barrett 8
Mary L. Barrett 5
Now I cant at this stage find a Jane Ellery marriage to a Fellour?
But CornwallOPC has a 1860 Marriage for Jane Ellery to William TRELOAR, her Father James.
Janes abode Carharrack
William/Jane Baptise a Harriett Lucinda Ellen* Treloar 27 Oct 1861 Gwennap
So could Fellour be Treloar?
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Birth Reg GRO Index;
TRELOAR, HARRIET LUCINDA ELLEN, Mothers mn ELLERY****
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in REDRUTH Volume 05C Page 278
1861 Census
Gwennap
William Treloar, 21
Jane Treloar, 21
Lemande Treloar, 2mths (LUCINDA?)
I cant find a Death Reg for William Treloar that fits 1861-1871.
So did Jane leave him and run of to Marry Joshua Barrett in Wales 1865 under her maiden name???
12 December 1865, St Mary, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Joshua BARRETT, 40, Widower, Father WILLIAM
Jane ELLERY, Single, Father JAMES
(Familysearch.Org)
Would appreciate anyone else's opinions on what I think happened please :)
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Hi Trish!
Thank you so much for all your hard work! Just want to let you know that I really appreciate it and my mother and I are going through it all very carefully so I don’t end up with the same mistakes as last time aha!
So even though I haven’t properly got back to you we are going through what you’ve sent and when the puzzle fits together I’ll relay what I’ve found out!
Again, thank you so much for your continual help! This forum is so great and friendly :)
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Your very welcome, yes Rootschat is a great Site and I got a lot of help from others on here when I joined. I now pay it back!
1881 Census has a Ellen TRELORE age 19 (1862), Dressmaker, lodging at Pooles Cottages 1 Redcliffe Mead Lane, Bristol, Glous.
Pretty sure that is Harriett Lucinda Ellen Treloar.
Have a great New Year and I will be watching the Fire Works here in Sydney tonight :)
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She married as Harriet Lucinda E Treloar 1885 Barton Regis (Glous)
Maybe a "spanner in the works"?
1901 Census
Bristol, Glous
William H Chidgey, 39
Harriett L Chidgey, 39, born Carnmarth, Cornwall
Joshua Barrett, 82, Wifes Step-Father****, Widr, Merchant Sea Captain, born Stratton, Devon****
Alice K Poole, 23
Florence L Bidder, 17
1891 mistranscribed;
William H Phidgey, 29
Harriet E Phidgey, 29, born Cranbourn, Cornwall
William is a Pawnbroker on both Census and 1911 they have no Children
So is Joshuas pob incorrect in 1901?
Stratton is a reg district in Cornwall.
Got to go out back later.