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Title: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: ErinMaryRyan on Sunday 31 December 17 06:50 GMT (UK)
Hello Roots Chatters,

Looking for any references whatsoever to a George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.  He was recorded as the brother in law of convict William Taylor who was transported to Tasmania in 1828.

Have found in newspapers a reference that he was opposite Bishopsgate Church in 1830 and in 1832 a reference to him being bankrupt.

Sadly, I have no other information to share.

Any and all miracles welcome, with thanks!

Happy New Year to you all.

Erin.
Title: Re: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 31 December 17 07:29 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  ;D

Later reports mention him living at Bishopsgate St  so I wonder if this could be the family in 1841 living at Bishopsgate Street, St Botolph Without Bishopsgate, East London
   
Katherine    Phillips 72    Independant
George Phillips 50    Furnishing ??
Carmelia?   Phillips 48    
Mary Ann    Phillips 21    
Alfred Phillips 19    Printer

Kay

Added Possible marriage of George Phillips to a Camilla Mary Margo Coudun  6 Dec 1813  Allhallows London Wall,London
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5VR-5Y1

And in 1861 I think George listed as a locksmith https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-MZFX   On the image Camilla is listed as a British Subject born Zurich, Switzerland
Title: Re: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 31 December 17 07:44 GMT (UK)
From directories:

1825 Pigots: Geo Philips ironmonger and brazier, 13 Camomile Street, Bishopsgate

He's not listed in 1822 or 1839 editions

Bankruptcy proceedings in 1832:

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/18987/page/2354

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/19005/page/2779
Title: Re: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 31 December 17 07:52 GMT (UK)
 Bankrupt Directory
Title: Re: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 31 December 17 08:06 GMT (UK)
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George Phillips 50    Furnishing ??

That could be furnishing ironmger
Title: Re: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 31 December 17 10:58 GMT (UK)
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1825 Pigots: Geo Philips ironmonger and brazier, 13 Camomile Street, Bishopsgate

In Kent's directory for 1823, the ironmonger at 13 Camomile Street is John Phillips.

I note in passing that the Tasmanian convict record simply says "Bro in law an ironmonger named Phillips opp the church in Bishopsgate Street". No first name given.
Title: Re: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 31 December 17 11:55 GMT (UK)
The London PO Directory for 1829 lists:

Phillips Geo  Furnishing Ironmonger 4 Bishopsgate
Title: Re: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: ErinMaryRyan on Monday 01 January 18 02:46 GMT (UK)
Happy New Year and thank you to you all for the wonderful replies.  You have provided me with more information in a couple of hours than I have been able to locate in weeks.  You have certainly given me a bit to follow up on.

Erin.

Title: Re: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: ErinMaryRyan on Monday 01 January 18 09:41 GMT (UK)
From the directory information provided by ShaunJ, I have located another reference to Phillips in Camomile Street.

Phillips & Son, Whitesmiths, 13, Camomile-str.
http://www.londonancestor.com/kents/kents-p.htm
"Directory of London and Westminster, & Borough of Southwark.  1794."  I don't know London at all, but do you feel that this would be the same family?

Look forward to your opinions, with thanks.
Erin.
Title: Re: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 01 January 18 10:12 GMT (UK)
George's father John Phillips died circa 1829 (possible burial at All Hallows on 6 October 1829, age 62). There's a PCC will proved in 1830; quite lengthy, mentions beneficiaries under his father's will, his sister Elizabeth Turner, wife Catherine, son George. No other offspring mentioned as far as I can see on a quick read through.

Perhaps John Phillips was the "bro in law" ? 
Title: Re: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 01 January 18 11:11 GMT (UK)
George's  grandfather (also named John Phillips) died circa 1807 and left a lengthy will which was proved in the PCC in 1808. On a quick read through only two children are mentioned: son John and daughter Elizabeth Hester.

Elizabeth Phillips married John Hester in 1796, and John Turner in 1807. 

Title: Re: George Phillips, Ironmonger of Bishopsgate.
Post by: ErinMaryRyan on Tuesday 02 January 18 23:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you Shaun, you have given me a great deal to follow up on, I am very grateful for your assistance.
Erin.