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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: ballydw on Tuesday 02 January 18 14:35 GMT (UK)
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I have checked Civil Records for a marriage of a John Sheehan & Kate (Catherine Lawton) midleton co cork no result. I have found Baptism records (at source) for 2 children namely Michael Sheehan 18 Oct 1877 & Hanora 27 Nov 1879.
Both- John Died 1879 & Kate died 1880
Michael born 1877 enlisted in army in 1899 in Tralee & gave NOK as a sister Katie residing in Chicago - I have failed to locate any birth details for Katie baptism or Civil. She must have been born prior to Michael in 1870's as both parents are dead by 1880. Thank you.
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Middleton https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0079
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Middleton https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0079
tks hallmark have checked the registers today only results in my op.
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Have you tried to find Kate in Chicago, 1900 Census or a marriage perhaps, I know it's likely to just say Ireland but you might get lucky, get her age at least.
I had a go but FamilySearch doesn't seem to like me at the moment.
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I can see a civil record for Michael but not Hanora.
Do you know what happened to Hanora? I wonder if she is Kate?
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I can see a civil record for Michael but not Hanora.
Do you know what happened to Hanora? I wonder if she is Kate?
Have checked civil record for Hanora as you say none Her baptism I got today visited church registers & No baptism for Katie. I dont think one could put names Katie/Hanora together.
Checked Civil records for death for Hanora there is 1 possibility death of a Hanora Sheehan address Carrigane Carrigtwohill age 16 months on 13 March 1881 Mary Cotter present.
The children were only very young when both parents died so they must have went to live with relatives possibly Tks for reply
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Have you tried to find Kate in Chicago, 1900 Census or a marriage perhaps, I know it's likely to just say Ireland but you might get lucky, get her age at least.
I had a go but FamilySearch doesn't seem to like me at the moment.
Tks Sinann did have a look at ship records & marriage but no luck. Must look again at Michaels enlistment record & details for NOK given. Katie had to be born before Michael & Hanora I think as parents died 1879 & 1880
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....sister Katie, Chicago........sounds like a very casual record for NOK?
I think you need to check the document you are using.
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I can see a civil record for Michael but not Hanora.
Do you know what happened to Hanora? I wonder if she is Kate?
Have checked civil record for Hanora as you say none Her baptism I got today visited church registers & No baptism for Katie. I dont think one could put names Katie/Hanora together.
Checked Civil records for death for Hanora there is 1 possibility death of a Hanora Sheehan address Carrigane Carrigtwohill age 16 months on 13 March 1881 Mary Cotter present.
The children were only very young when both parents died so they must have went to live with relatives possibly Tks for reply
No I wouldn’t put the names together but as I couldn’t find a civil record for Hanora, nor indeed Kate, I wondered if she had assumed her mother’s name after her mother died or was registered with one name and known as another.
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This might be Mary Cotter who reported the deaths of Kate and Hanora.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11095/8060831.pdf
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....sister Katie, Chicago........sounds like a very casual record for NOK?
I think you need to check the document you are using.
Details on Michael Sheehans enlistment record 5th Jan 1899 Tralee Kerry
NOK Sister Katie, E James Avenue Chicago USA & Rebecca Coughlan whom he married 6th Nov 1913
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This might be Mary Cotter who reported the deaths of Kate and Hanora.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11095/8060831.pdf
Great find Heywood certainly seems likely that Mary Cotter (previously Lawton) present at deaths was related to mother Kate Lawton (Sheehan) & maybe took in the children after mothers death :)
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Just muching around in the Census. Posting this in case I lose it.
May not be relevant but there are some Lawton staying with Cotters in Carrigtwohill in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Carrigtwohill/Carrigtwohill/1134947/
and a widowed Thomas Cotter
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Carrigtwohill/Carrigtwohill/1134951/
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Just muching around in the Census. Posting this in case I lose it.
May not be relevant but there are some Lawton staying with Cotters in Carrigtwohill in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Carrigtwohill/Carrigtwohill/1134947/
and a widowed Thomas Cotter
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Carrigtwohill/Carrigtwohill/1134951/
tks sinann all worth delving into I am thinking maybe Kate Lawton who married John Sheehan may have married in Carrigtwohill will check registers :)
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I have looked there but couldn’t see her. I hope you find her.
This looks like Thomas Cotter in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Carrigtohill/Carrigane/434998/
Son Michael born in America
Possible marriage for Michael
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09892/5594301.pdf
With a Lawton witness.
It might be getting too complicated now. :-\
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A Catherine Sheehan, father John barman deceased married in 1887 to Thomas Murnane
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10797/5937506.pdf
Could it be her?
She'd have to be fibbing about her age if she is your Kate.
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I have looked there but couldn’t see her. I hope you find her.
This looks like Thomas Cotter in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Carrigtohill/Carrigane/434998/
Son Michael born in America
Possible marriage for Michael
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09892/5594301.pdf
With a Lawton witness.
It might be getting too complicated now. :-\
I agree, Have found a Baptism in Carrigtwohill for a Kate Lawton Nov 25th 1849 Father David Lawton - cannot read mothers surname first name ABBY sponsors Pat Kelleher Ellen Daly
Sorry unable to post image :)
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A Catherine Sheehan, father John barman deceased married in 1887 to Thomas Murnane
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10797/5937506.pdf
Could it be her?
She'd have to be fibbing about her age if she is your Kate.
On Michaels enlistment she is nok as Katie Sheehan James Ave, Chicago. I might post a request on the US board tks for your help :)
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I think that would be best re US board.
That marriage looks more like John Sheehan -Farmer to me.
The Cotter marriage shows Mary Lawton Walsh (widow) with a father Michael Lawton.
There is a baptism 23 December 1850 Carrigtohill with parents Ml Lawton and Cath. Twomy.
A possibility maybe.
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I think that would be best re US board.
That marriage looks more like John Sheehan -Farmer to me.
The Cotter marriage shows Mary Lawton Walsh (widow) with a father Michael Lawton.
There is a baptism 23 December 1850 Carrigtohill with parents Ml Lawton and Cath. Twomy.
A possibility maybe.
Will have a look through the nli registers in carrigtohill to see if there is a Kate Lawton to same parents. Kate named her children Michael & Katie so maybe a possibility. Tks for all your help :)
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I think that would be best re US board.
That marriage looks more like John Sheehan -Farmer to me.
The Cotter marriage shows Mary Lawton Walsh (widow) with a father Michael Lawton.
There is a baptism 23 December 1850 Carrigtohill with parents Ml Lawton and Cath. Twomy.
A possibility maybe.
Will have a look through the nli registers in carrigtohill to see if there is a Kate Lawton to same parents. Kate named her children Michael & Katie so maybe a possibility. Tks for all your help :)
Had a look at registers & found a baptism for a Cath Lawton Carrigtohil 23rd Dec 1850 same date as the baptism for Mary you found Parents Michael Lawton & Cath Twomey. I then found Mary Lawtons first marriage to Thomas Walsh n 1862 so not possible surely at 12yrs of age??
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Sorry. I wasn’t clear. I was referring to the baptism of Cath Lawton that you have now found and just saying that Mary had a father Michael.
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Will have a look for a baptism for Mary Lawton tks
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Hi,
My Great Grandfather was David Lawton (baptised 29-12-1841) of Ballyrichard, who married Ellen Lawton of Woodstock, they had seven children,
His sister Mary (baptised 1-4-1839) firstly married Thomas Walsh and had a daughter Margaret, she then married Thomas Cotter and had a son Michael.
His next sister Bridget (baptised 4-3-1865)married Patrick Wallace, Ballinabointra.
His third sister was Kate (baptised23-12-1850) who married John Sheehan.
Their parents were Michael Lawton (c.1819-1885) And Catherine Twomey (c.1820-1883)
Hope this is of help