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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Malivrag on Tuesday 02 January 18 22:56 GMT (UK)
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Still trying to finish my partner's genealogy. William Charlesworth's children have their mother's maiden name listed as Wales in GRO, but I can't find a marriage record for them. They're living together in the 1871, 1881, 1891, and 1901 censuses. There's also a Charles Wales, boarder, living with them at one point. Is this a brother or cousin of Sarah? I can't seem to find William in the 1861 census, either.
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Where and when was Sarah born
Where and when was Charles born
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If Sarah had been previously married - she would re-marry under her married name. However - any children born to the second marriage would always show her actual maiden name
William Charlesworth married Sarah Ann Wales, Sheffield
Why do you say they married in Sheffield if you can't find a marriage?
In 1871 they were in the Barnsley RD and I note that Sarah was born Leicestershire 1830
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Where and when was Sarah born
Where and when was Charles born
Both Sarah and Charles were born in Sheffield, according to the 1881 census. The entry just has him as 'boarder' but I can't help but wonder if he was a relation. She was born about 1842 and Charles was born about 1854.
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If Sarah had been previously married - she would re-marry under her married name. However - any children born to the second marriage would always show her actual maiden name
William Charlesworth married Sarah Ann Wales, Sheffield
Why do you say they married in Sheffield if you can't find a marriage?
In 1871 they were in the Barnsley RD and I note that Sarah was born Leicestershire 1830
??? Are you sure you're seeing the same entry I am? 1871, says Sarah was born about 1842 in Sheffield: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBCG-W59
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Different 1871 entry - because you didn't include birthyears/places the only William Charlesworth with a wife Sarah Ann I could find in 1871 was b Leics
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Good job you used FS for the 1871 entry - Ancestry haven't got it
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Freebmd has a birth reg for Charles Wales in 1854 so have you checked his mmn using
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
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The 1851 has Sarah as the daughter of William & Mary. The 1861 has Charles as the son of William & Mary so Sarah & Charles were siblings
Sarah Ann's birth reg is on freebmd in 1842 so you can check if her mmn matches Charles birth reg
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A FamilySearch tree, 9VHQ-Q7P , has William b. Abt 1827, Gawber, Yorkshire.
Marriage: 15 November 1846, Darton, Yorkshire. to Sarah Ann Palmer 1830–1886
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The 1871 has a dau Mary Ann born about 1858. I don't see a birth registration in Sheffield for her. She could be Sarah's dau, but not William's.
Try following these up as it's possible Sarah was married previously.
MIDDLETON, MARY ANN, mother's maiden name WALES
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 306
The 1861 census Sheffield has a Geo 23, and Sarah Middleton 20, with children Mary Ann 2 and Jas 1 month ( RG 9; Piece: 3500; Folio: 112; Page: 13)
And a possible marriage: Jan 30th 1859, Parish Church Sheffield, George Hattersley Middleton 21,
Sarah Ann Wales 19, Eyre Lane, father William.
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The above scenario is looking rather likely as I see in 1881 there's a Mary Ann Middleton born 1859 with the Charlesworth family. Also Mary Ann's son Samuel age3.
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Mary Ann Middleton and her son Samuel born 1878 are with a Shaw family in 1891. Sam is entered as Samuel Shaw Middleton.
1901 has: Samuel Shaw 1858, Mary Ann Shaw (wife) 1859. Samuel Shaw son 1879, Harriet Charlesworth visitor 1876. Living Sheffield,
Marriages Dec 1891, Sheffield, 9c 885. Samuel Shaw and Mary Ann Middleton
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Mary Ann Middleton and her son Samuel born 1878 are with a Shaw family in 1891. Sam is entered as Samuel Shaw Middleton.
1901 has: Samuel Shaw 1858, Mary Ann Shaw (wife) 1859. Samuel Shaw son 1879, Harriet Charlesworth visitor 1876. Living Sheffield,
Marriages Dec 1891, Sheffield, 9c 885. Samuel Shaw and Mary Ann Middleton
28 November 1891 - St John, Sheffield
Samuel Shaw, 34, bachelor, Cutler. Father: Samuel, Carver
Mary Ann Middleton (x), 32, spinster. Father: George, Labourer
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Fantastic sleuthing everyone!
Now I'm trying to find William's family. I can't seem to find a likely candidate on the 1841 census.