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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Jojo on Wednesday 03 January 18 12:56 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I'm trying to work out the place name from this baptism record and would welcome any ideas.
It's the fifth column of the bottom row. I've included a fair amount of other text for reference.
My best guess is Barristead, Herefordshire (looking at the double R in Harriet at the top), but this doesn't seem to be a place.
Any ideas?
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I read it as Barnstead - but that doesn't really help either because I can't see a place called Barnstead in Herefordshire!
What church is this from please?
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I can't find anything that seems vaguely like Barnstead or Barristead either.
This is from St Mary, Hampton, Richmond upon Thames, 1821. In the London CofE births and baptisms 1813-1916 on Ancestry.
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I agree with Barnstead but there isn't one that I know of. I notice that the baptism was in Richmond and wonder whether the accent caused a mistranscription :-\ When I first saw it I thought of Bartestree :-\
Kay
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There seems to be two copies of the baptism record on Ancestry. On the one that I am looking at (I think it is the Bishops Transcript, and the name is transcribed as Zachares), the location is written as Barnsted, and the county could either be Herefordshire or Hertfordshire.
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I did consider whether it was Hertfordshire.
Nothing likely is coming up in either of those counties though.
Thanks for your thoughts. I'm going to see if I can find any siblings.
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It does look like Barnsted but I wonder if it could be Bamsted, not sure where that is though.
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Just seen this - agree with Bamstead - see the m in Hampton .
Gadget
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Perhaps check where the parents were born - parents may have to their parents for the birth...
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Thanks again for all your suggestions. Still not managed to tie up with a real place name but I'll keep looking.
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Worth remembering that parish registers were often written up from rough day-books, or even slips of paper, and there may be copying errors in the registers that we see.
The place-name clearly ends -stead. The Genuki pages for towns and parishes in Herefordshire and Hertfordshire show that -stead is a far more common ending in Hertfordshire than in Herefordshire.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HRT/parishes
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/Parishes
There seem to be quite a few Ireland families in Hertfordshire. Thinking a long way outside the box, could it be a mis-copying of an abbreviated form of Berkhamste(a)d?
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Worth remembering that parish registers were often written up from rough day-books, or even slips of paper, and there may be copying errors in the registers that we see.
The place-name clearly ends -stead. The Genuki pages for towns and parishes in Herefordshire and Hertfordshire show that -stead is a far more common ending in Hertfordshire than in Herefordshire.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HRT/parishes
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/Parishes
There seem to be quite a few Ireland families in Hertfordshire. Thinking a long way outside the box, could it be a mis-copying of an abbreviated form of Berkhamste(a)d?
Had just done the same thing, Bookbox, and came to the same possible conclusion - abbreviation of Berkhamstead /B'amstead :)
Gadget
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I found this reference to Banstead Down, Old Chorleywood Road, Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, WD3 4EH, England
https://address-data.co.uk/23906517/banstead-down-old-chorleywood-road-rickmansworth-hertfordshire-wd3-4eh
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Banstead was my initial thought. I suppose he could have been a southerner and said Barnstead ;D
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That's another contender, thanks to all who've posted since my last check in.
I've been down the old maps route and everything. At least I can bear these places in mind when searching :)
Much appreciated!