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Title: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: R Williams on Wednesday 03 January 18 21:56 GMT (UK)
I'm having no joy trying to find my Grandma Edith Bullock, supposedly born Yorks 1893 in the 1901 or 1911 census, even using her apparent siblings names brings no records?? Any ideas???
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: Spidermonkey on Wednesday 03 January 18 22:08 GMT (UK)
Hi R Williams, welcome to rootschat!

Do you have Edith's birth cert?  If so, are her parents named? 

What are her siblings names?

Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 03 January 18 22:13 GMT (UK)
Welcome from me, too! ;D

Alternatively, do you have her marriage certificate?
Who does she name as her father on there?
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: R Williams on Wednesday 03 January 18 22:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the welcome and thanks in advance for your help😁. No marriage cert either, but records say 1917 to Alfred Oliver Williams born 1890 Llantrisant, no parents mentioned!
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: Spidermonkey on Wednesday 03 January 18 22:39 GMT (UK)
I think you may have to bite the bullet and buy Edith and Alfred's marriage cert.

Did Edith remarry?  Looking at the 1939 index, there is an A O Williams, and wife Edith (birth date 15 Sept 1893) in Caerphilly U.D., Glamorganshire.

An Edith Pike with the same birth date dies in Surrey in 1979
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: giggsycat on Wednesday 03 January 18 22:43 GMT (UK)
One possible for starters!

Births Dec 1893   
Bullock    Edith        Ecclesall B.    9c   407

From GRO Mother's Maiden Name CARRINGTON.


Possible Bullock/Carrington Marriage in same area.

Marriages Sep 1892 
Bullock    Charles        Ecclesall B.    9c   455     ***
Carrington    Clara        Ecclesall B.    9c   455     ***
MOORE    Ellen        Ecclesall B.    9c   455    
Smith    Clarence        Ecclesall B.    9c   455

1901
Bute Street, Ecclesall Bierlow

Charles Bullock bc 1866 Sheffield Occ. Coachman (Domestic)
With wife Clara bc 1869 Sheffield
Children:
Edith 1894     Sheffield
Dorothy 1896
Mabel b1897 Sheffield
John Chas. b1900 Sheffield
Ellen 1901 Sheffield

Do any of these names fit what you know please?

Giggsy


Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 04 January 18 00:09 GMT (UK)
Building on what has been found - Edith Bullock was baptised 11 Oct 1893 at St Silas, Gilcar, Sheffield.

Parents: Charles (a groom) and Clara, of 42 Hurst Rd.

(Details from www.sheffieldindexers.com).
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: R Williams on Thursday 04 January 18 13:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Giggsy, looks promising, Edith, Mabel, Ellen (nelly) are names I have. Dorothy and John Charles no. I will try the 1911 census tho Edith has not shown up there before, am I right in thinking this is from 1901 census?
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: Spidermonkey on Thursday 04 January 18 13:20 GMT (UK)
You should be able to find Charles and Clara easily enough on the 1911 census.  I suspect that Edith is on the 1911 without a birth place, but still living in Ecclesall (don't think we can do look ups for the 1911 census)
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: R Williams on Thursday 04 January 18 15:22 GMT (UK)
Thanks also to Spidermonkey and avm228, this looks like the same Edith, but not on 1911. Also missing her sister Dorothy, who may appear as a domestic elsewhere (age is right on the entry I found).  1911 shows a brother Frank, William (poss), Mabel, but the others  ??? Also Ellen has gone though I am told there was a Nelly(Ellen), too young to be elsewhere?  I have no certificates , but yes she married my g father Alfred Oliver in 1917 Pontypridd.
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: R Williams on Thursday 04 January 18 15:35 GMT (UK)
I would also dearly love to find my G Grandpas father to enable further progress, his name is Daniel Williams b 1852-4 llantrisant, married Elizabeth (?) b 1856-8 Bath. Any good ideas ? Ive tried searching marriage and Banns , Glamorganshire and elsewhere. Tried significant events, births etc unless they married somewhere else, outside my searching dates.
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: Dundee on Friday 05 January 18 00:26 GMT (UK)
Charles and Clara

1901
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X95Y-MGJ

1911
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWKH-JGK

Edith in 1911
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWKZ-J3J

The surname on the original is BULLOCK not BLOCK.

I would also dearly love to find my G Grandpas father to enable further progress, his name is Daniel Williams b 1852-4 llantrisant, married Elizabeth (?) b 1856-8 Bath.

You can find Elizabeth's maiden surname by searching for the children's births on the GRO indexes.  It is free but you need to register.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

I assume this is the family...

1911
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW6P-729

1901
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSMJ-B4X

1891
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:41KY-S2M

1881
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2W9-WJHG

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: R Williams on Monday 29 October 18 08:40 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for your help, I have now got back another generation to Moses Williams b 1824 but seem stuck there for now. Cannot confirm his parents?
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: avm228 on Monday 29 October 18 09:21 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for your help, I have now got back another generation to Moses Williams b 1824 but seem stuck there for now. Cannot confirm his parents?

What have you found out about Moses Williams - is he the one who married Esther John, Jun qtr 1845 Cardiff 26 652A? The marriage record should give you paternal details for each of them.
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: R Williams on Monday 29 October 18 17:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for your help, I have now got back another generation to Moses Williams b 1824 but seem stuck there for now. Cannot confirm his parents?
Title: Re: Edith Bullock born 1893?
Post by: R Williams on Monday 29 October 18 18:00 GMT (UK)
Sorry I'm having trouble logging on with my iPad so I'm having to use an iPod. Trying to find birth or other connection for Moses Williams 1824 Glamorganshire, okay from 1851 on, cept not sure when died. He lived Llantrisant, yes married to Esther, that's as much as I can find. Any pointers appreciated🤔