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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: heatherwalsh on Friday 05 January 18 12:14 GMT (UK)
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hello i am looking for a marriage between JAMES COLLIGAN and MARY MCGUIRE. i assume in scotland perhaps shotts as i found a daughter for them on lsd named MARY COLLIGAN born 1870. i cannot find their marriage anywhere. can anyone help please with any information about them?
kind regards from Heather
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So this is the baptism? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ86-Z3T
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yes that is it
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How did you arrive at the record?
ie do you know where this child ended up? Got them on any census?
I's scotland, so remember that Ancestry is pretty useless.
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a relative sent me the names on a family tree, but i am trying to verify this marriage to see if it is the correct person i am looking for. james colligan was born 1823 shotts to john colligan and margaret kirk. this is verified. i cannot find this family anywhere but i have posted before about them (james parents) with no luck. so now i am trying to find james and mary to see if that will give me any further info.........i cant find them in any census going by their daughters birth. the tree i was sent said james and mary married 1857, but did not say where and that seemed like a long gap before mary was born.........i dont know where to look
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relative has passed away so cannot ask where they got info
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Have you obtained all the records for that name from Scotland's people?
They are pay-per-record, but not expensive.
So rather than someone else paying for them, tell us what the records state, and if they are not "your" James Colligan, what factual info from the records makes them unsuitable candidates?
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scotlands people have no record of a marriage between a james colligan to a mary mcguire, we have looked there
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This is like pulling teeth...
What about the census(es). The name james colligan appears, so what does it give for each census entry of the occurrence of the name?
2 entries in 1841 and 1851, 4? in 1861 and 7 in 1871...
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Perhaps if you tell us what you know about Mary bn 1870 - where is she after her birth. That way we may be able to track back.
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I am sorry, i dont quite know what you mean. no james colligan comes up in census for his birthyear and as for daughter mary, no census with her birthyear are her as they have different parents, so i cant find mary after her birth either
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i cant find any trace of them
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Skip the birthyear for James. What can you tell us about the namesakes?.
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i cant find any trace of them
Where do you connect to this Mary
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All I know is that the James I am looking for was born to John Colligan and Margaret Kirk in 1823 , his sisters Margaret born 1818 , his sister Eleanor born 1820 , all Shotts IN 1823, his parents married 1820 also Shotts.
He apparently married Mary McGuire and they had a daughter Mary , this is all I know.........
I can't find the daughters birth either on Scotlandspeople and cannot find any of these people anywhere else except what I have....................
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sorry didnt realise i was on capitals and marys birth i got from lsd, family search
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Surely you mean LDS, not lsd.
So what do the census(es) say about the James Colligans who DO appear?
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OK :)
John Colligan married Margaret Kirk
their children
Margaret 1818
Eleanor 1820
James 1823 - married Mary McGuire and had daughter Mary 1870
Daughter Marys birth is on Scotlands people though index does not give mothers maiden name
COLLIGAN
MARY
F
1870
655/ 100
Shotts
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sorry LDS yes, i cant connect any james as different spouse names and no child mary of fitting age, i just found a mary colligan born shotts 1870 on scotlands people but ran out of credits, so i will wait till payday to follow that up and see if it gives anymore info
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james also had a step sister to his mothers first marraige, she was mary nichol born 1815-16
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Mary's birth entry on SP has their marriage as May 27 1857 Fermanagh, Ireland
Gadget
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thank you, then ireland looking i will go
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Daughter Marys birth is on Scotlands people though index does not give mothers maiden name
COLLIGAN
MARY
F
1870
655/ 100
Shotts
Mother's MN given as McGuire, Rosie. :)
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so not same person as mary mcguire then
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so not same person as mary mcguire then
Yes - Mother's maiden name was given as McGuire - thus Mary Mcguire. I'm trying to decipher the place of marriage in Co Fermanagh - Newtown B??.
Checked with Irish genealogy and can't find a marriage so far.
added - the Rosie was Rosie99 who was helping you ;D
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so not same person as mary mcguire then
I think that Gadget is referring to me 'rosie' ;D
Thanks gadget it did not show the mmn where I posted from :)
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oops sorry
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;D
It's Newtownbutler written on record as Newtown Butler:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newtownbutler