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Hello . I am trying to find out who would have been in Aber House in 1878-1879 According to my great grandfathers birth certificate his mother was a domestic servant there . I have found records of a Morgan family . Children listed as being born there but cannot find it on the 1881 census
Thomas Stubbs Morgan
Born 14th Dec 1880 Aber House . Nantymoel Wales
Died 15th Aug 1968 cowra , Australia
Sarah Jane Morgan
Born 1st March 1882 Aber House Nantymoel.
Died 1939 N.S. W. Australia
Alice Elizabeth Morgan
Born23rd May 1884 Aber House Nantymoel Wales
Died 20h July 1955 Australia
I also found an obituary for a David Jones who died there in 1880.
I have had information that Aber House was a Colliery Managers house .so it would have different occupants as the managers changed
My great grandfather's mother was Elizabeth Thomas (unmarried when he was born )In 1881 she was with her parents in coity .
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I found a family living at Aber Houses, Llandyfodog, Bridgend, Glamorganshire, Wales
However looking at the original pages I found that Aber Houses covered from halfway down page 28 to first line of Page 33.
Registration district Bridgend
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 5328
Folio 18
Page 31
The above relates to the Jones family. Most of the heads of households were coal miners.
I can't seem to find an Aber House for Llandyfodog itself.
Not quite what you were looking for perhaps.
Currently there is the following on Google maps
Aber House
Aber Rd
Ogmore Vale
Bridgend
CF32 7AU
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My great grandfather's mother was Elizabeth Thomas (unmarried when he was born )In 1881 she was with her parents in coity .
Just wondering why her sons name is Thomas Stubbs Morgan if she was unmarried when he was born ???
Was he registered as Morgan or Thomas when he was born and are Sarah and Alice also Thomas or Morgan?
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The Aber houses was a street of houses built for the colliery workers and their families .
As far as I know Elizabeth Thomas isn't related to the Morgan family but may have been employed by them as according to my great grandfathers birth certificate she was a domestic servant there when he was born in1879. Servants are listed on the census but the next census is 1881 and I cannot find Aber House on there, or on the 1871 census . Elizabeth was a Thomas before marriage and did marry a George Thomas in 1883.
My great grandfather s birth certificate gives his fathers name as Alfred John Huxtable but he was Baptised as Alfred John Thomas the name he always used
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Hello Pamela 7416,
I'm afraid I can't spool back to the occupants of Aber House, Ogmore Vale as long ago as 1878/79. I can however, confirm that you're correct in saying that Aber House was a Colliery Manager's residence. My grandfather Thomas Williams (and his wife and four children) lived in Aber House in the 1930's and 1940's. The youngest of those four children was my father Alun Williams who had many memories of living (first at Clyddach Court) and growing up in Aber House, including hurtling down the steep drive on his "Fairy cycle" and/or "Gambo" and colliding with the gates at the bottom of the drive. Those same gates were taken off their hinges almost every Christmas morning by raucous (and probably inebriated- despite the Temperance Movement!) miners before waking the household with a rousing chorus of "Christians Awake".
Both my grandfather and grandmother were fervent Welsh speakers (and both were Gorsedd Bards) and when my father was growing up if he asked for anything in English, he was roundly ignored! There was a major age gap between my father's eldest sister (who actually taught him at school!). The next eldest sister subsequently married the Welsh poet, novelist and twice-Chaired bard T. Rowland Hughes.
I'm sorry not to have been able to answer the 1878/79 occupancy conundrum but thought some family recollections of Aber House might not go amiss. I'm never sure whether the correct address is Ogmore Vale or Nantymoel (main claim to fame is that the Nantymoel fire-station burnt down!) but Aber House still proudly stands under the towering mass of the Bwlch.
Best wishes,
Chairperson
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Just noticed enquiries about Aber House at Aber Colliery near Caerphilly. The one-time manager was David Vaughan 1844-1923 [my great-uncle, known as 'Uncle Daffo']. Various records find him 'of Aber Colliery' in 1870, as 'Colliery Manager' in 1871, as Colliery Manager at Aber House in 1879; the 1881 census has him as a visitor at Llangynwyd, Bach Farm, but the next record has him at Aber House as 'Colliery Agent' in 1886, and he is enumerated in 1891 as 'Mine Colliery Agent , living at Aber House. By 1891 he was retired, living elsewhere.
He and his wife Alice [nee Pritchard, of Wick] had no children.
I'd be glad if someone can confirm if Aber House still stands - I'm a bit far away from the Ogmore Valley now. Merry Christmas!
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Chairperson,
Sorry to interrupt this thread but please can you tell me more about your relative at Clydach Court. I lived there for some years during the war.
It had been owned and built by Henry Llewellyn Grover for his family.
I an interested in its history and who lived there after the death of HLGrover.
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Hello . monkeyman .I started this thread a few years ago and am still not much the wiser . I went to Nantymoel in 2019 ,called in the library there . The librarian pointed out the house and told me that there is a family living there .It is on Aber Road as Chairperson said . But I see you have said Carephilly :-\ That is a good distance from Nantymoel and I am uncertain if I had the right place .Is there another Aber House . :-\ To add to my confusion my great grandfathers birth certificate says his mother was a domestic servant at Aber House Port Talbot . I enquired in Port Talbot but they did not know of such a place there .In my original post I mentioned Morgan children being born there ,but checking out their baptisms the addresses are different . Any ideas are wlcomed .