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Title: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: yekepa on Sunday 07 January 18 12:44 GMT (UK)
Hi
Can anyone help with the marriage details of Sarah Sturman b Risby c 1856 married June 1887 Thingoe district. Looking for details of her husband.
Many thanks
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 07 January 18 13:07 GMT (UK)
June qtr 1887 
Hall    Edward       
Sturman    Sarah       
Thingoe    4a   871
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: Annette7 on Sunday 07 January 18 13:28 GMT (UK)
According to online trees, census, etc. Edward surname was 'Halls' - he was born Edward Whiting Halls, 1861 Drinkstone.

Annette
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 07 January 18 13:32 GMT (UK)
1891 -surname Halls
RG12/630 f76 p48
Edward is age 29 occ Labourer
His place of birth
ADDED Yes it could be Drinkstone  :)

Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: yekepa on Sunday 07 January 18 13:41 GMT (UK)
Thank you both, great help
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 07 January 18 14:21 GMT (UK)
Edward Whiting Halls
Baptism 6 Oct 1861 at Drinkstone, All Saints
Parents Edward & Emily. Fathers occupation Shopkeeper
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: yekepa on Sunday 07 January 18 14:33 GMT (UK)
Rosie,
Thank you so much, is it so helpful.
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 07 January 18 15:35 GMT (UK)
Mother Emily Halls remarried 1868 Stow to a Daniel Stiff

Edward with them on 1871 census
Jennifer
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: yekepa on Sunday 07 January 18 16:25 GMT (UK)
Jennifer, Thank you.
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman
Post by: yekepa on Tuesday 16 January 18 09:13 GMT (UK)
Further to all the info given on Sarah marrying Edward Whiting Halls
When they married they moved away from Suffolk to Bromley, their first son was born in Bromley in 1892.
Does anyone have a record of the address where they lived in Bromley and the type of work he was doing, also looking for record of Edwards death in 1897 at Bromley. after which Sarah and her 3 children moved back to Suffolk.
Many thanks
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: Dyingout on Tuesday 16 January 18 10:01 GMT (UK)
1891
Has Edward,29 Drinkstone. Sara, 34 Risby. Elizabeth, 4 Risby. And Sister in law Lucy A Sturman, 20 Risby
All living at 45 Waldo Road Bromley Sevenoaks Kent
Edwards Occupation is Labourer

Edward Halls
 birth year:    abt 1862
Registration Year:    1897
Registration Quarter:    Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death:    35
Registration district:    Bromley    Kent
Volume:    2a
Page:    247
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: yekepa on Tuesday 16 January 18 11:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks for info, rather puzzled by Elizabeth 4 Risby does the census mention her relationship to Sarah and Edward as their children were as follows

William Charles Edward age 9 born Bromley 1892     Lily age 4 born Bromley  1897
Elsie age 2 born Bromley 1895

Also is there any info on Edwards death?
Thanks for help
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: yekepa on Tuesday 16 January 18 11:33 GMT (UK)
Since previous post I have found 
 Elizabeth Florence Sturman
BIRTH:    Jul 1886 - Thingoe, Suffolk
Can anyone help establish if she was dau. of Sarah Sturman born before her marriage in 1887?
This is first we have every heard of her in the family, did she die young? as she did not return to Risby with Sarah and other 3 children.
Mystery!!!
Thanks for any help on this one.
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 16 January 18 12:40 GMT (UK)
GRO Index has no Mothers mn so she is illegitimate

1901 Census Elizabeth F Halls born c 1887 Risby, Suffolk,  is a Servant in Aldrington, Sussex.

Last Census available she is still unm, a Cook, born Risby and still in Sussex.
Down as Elizabeth Florence Sleeman.
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 16 January 18 12:57 GMT (UK)
1911 Census reg district is Cuckfield.
Census was taken 4 April 1911.

FreeBMD has a Marriage Reg Cuckfield June 1911 for a Elizabeth F Sturman.
Spouse either William J MADDOCKS or George A HEMSLEY

Looks like she married George;

2 Children reg Brighton 1912/1918 under Hemsley, Mothers mn Sturman
Searched 1911-1926
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: Annette7 on Tuesday 16 January 18 13:13 GMT (UK)
She married a George A Hemsley in the June quarter 1911 Cuckfield, Sussex as Elizabeth F. Sturman (which was her legal name).

Elizabeth Florence Hemsley b.2/7/1886, died Mar. 1971 Cuckfield, Sussex.

She and George appear to have had 2 children:

Edith F. Hemsley mmn Sturman  Sept.1912 Brighton, Sussex
Stanley C. Hemsley mmn Sturman Sept.1918     ditto

Annette

Beat me to it trish1120
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 16 January 18 13:23 GMT (UK)
Death Reg FreeBMD;
March 1971
HEMSLEY, Elizabeth Florence age 78 Birth 2 July 1886

Husband George A Hemsley may have died to have died 1958 age 71

1918 Child seems to be Stanley Cyril Hemsley died 1978 - Tonbridge, Kent and someone has him on a private tree on Anc.

Cant find anything on the Daug 1912
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 16 January 18 13:23 GMT (UK)
Snap Annette ;D
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: yekepa on Tuesday 16 January 18 15:22 GMT (UK)
Thank you all great information.
Still looking for death of Edward Whiting Halls  any ideas?
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 16 January 18 15:49 GMT (UK)
Deaths Dec 1897 
Edward Halls    age 35   
Bromley    2a   24

I see that it  has already been posted  :-\
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: yekepa on Wednesday 17 January 18 13:57 GMT (UK)
Rosie
I acknowledge that I was just hoping that there might be something more.
Thanks
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: yekepa on Wednesday 17 January 18 14:57 GMT (UK)
Further to the reply from Dying Out   Lucy A Sturman listed went on to have a baby girl around that date, in Bromley, possibility that her name was  Lily. and that after her birth both Mother and Dau returned to Suffolk.  Unsure but Lucy Ann Sturman may have married a George Lewis Sharman in Suffolk.

 Any further help on this would be much appreciated.

Not to be mixed with Sarah and Edwards also having a daughter Lily.
Title: Re: Sarah Sturman Suffolk
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 24 January 18 11:58 GMT (UK)
Further to the reply from Dying Out   Lucy A Sturman listed went on to have a baby girl around that date, in Bromley, possibility that her name was  Lily. and that after her birth both Mother and Dau returned to Suffolk.  Unsure but Lucy Ann Sturman may have married a George Lewis Sharman in Suffolk.

 Any further help on this would be much appreciated.

Not to be mixed with Sarah and Edwards also having a daughter Lily.

You have started a new topic on searching for Lucy and baby etc :)  Replies are on there
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=786403