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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: jphall on Sunday 07 January 18 15:43 GMT (UK)
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Hello All
Best wishes for2018
Looking for any information on a family called Capretz or Copretz.
Could have been in Chelsea area of London, although no certain.
Particularly interested if connected to either the Leach, Carter, Haynes families.
Thanks
John Hall
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1871 Westminster marriage Stephen Capretz to either Matilda Newman or Margaret Jane G Woods
He died aged 34 st Geo Hanover sq in 1881
Felix Captretz died 1950 aged 57 Hammersmith
Jennifer
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Thanks, Jennifer, do you have details of his Nationality?
Regards
John
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He married Matilda, on 1881 census born Switzerland
Jennifer
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Looks like he was a cook at the Cavalry barracks Colchester
Jennifer
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Ok, thanks. Can't fit him in my tree yet but thank you for the information
John
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Hi. This is very interesting. My mother was born out of wedlock in 1929 in London. She told me her mother eventually said a man named Felix Capretz, who was Swiss and married, was her father. Wonder if it’s the same? Thanks for the lead!
There are conflicting documents and statements over the years so trying to untangle what is true.
David Tice, NJ, USA
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Felix Charles Alfred Caprez married Agnes Higgins 1917 Fulham registration district.
He died 14 February 1950 probate to widow Agnes. He was of 59 Castlenau Barnes Surrey, but died in the West London Hospital Hammersmith.
His death registration is in Hammersmith.
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to original poster JPHALL
What time period are you looking at?
John Capretz - Lawrence Street Chelsea 1798
other listings have Capreth/Copretz
He was the son of John and Honor/Hannah Capretz born 1780 Soho
married first Mary Rumbell 5 Jan 1800 St Martin in the fields, she was buried 23 June 1805 St Luke's Chelsea
married 2nd Hannah Melville 30 March 1807 she was buried 30 December 1808 age 30 St Luke's
married 3rd Mary Lester 7 March 1810
He was buried 15 February 1824 St Luke's Chelsea age 43
I found 4 children of the first marriage, the two sons died, daughters Mary and Maria appear to have survived at least I've not yet found a death.
Are they likely to be connected to your family
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Thank you for taking the trouble to find this information. You obviously have a good source.
Yes, I believe these people are part of our family.
My ancestor Maria Capretz was the daughter of John and Mary as she was born in 1802.
This is my best effort at tracing our Italian roots which were rumoured by the family and has shown up in a DNA test.
Regards
John
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world wide subscription to ancestry.com.
Sorry I should have sourced my information.
I looked on London Lives 1680-1820 but did not find John Capretz listed, I was hoping to find
his occupation.
Do you have the information on his sons John and John William, do you need what can be found on his parents.
The name Capretz with variations goes back to the 1600's in London/Middlesex, church transcriptions on ancestry.
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Thank you.
I know very little about this family. Any information will be helpful.
Perhaps though it may not be my Italian link as I thought. That is if the Capretz family have been in the UK all that time.
Regards
John
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If Maria Capretz is your ancestor then this particular family is yours, they may have come to England with John her grandfather.
The name is found further north as well, it means Italians with the name Capretz have been coming to England for generations. I didn't mean to imply that your family had been traced back that far.
St Luke's Church Chelsea
Maria baptised 24 May 1801 born 15 July 1800
Mary baptised 25 August 1802 no birth date given
John William baptised 9 September 1804, born 27 July 1804 buried 3 June 1805
John baptised 20 July 1806, born 15 June 1806, buried 4 December 1812 age 6
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There is also an Elizabeth buried 3 November 1811 I've not found her baptism yet so not a definate child of John and 3rd wife Mary.
John Capretz the father of the children was buried 15 February 1824.
Hopefully he left a will or there is some sort of probate naming relatives.
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St Martin in the Fields Church
Mary Capretz married Thomas Trigg 1 October 1815, witness Mark Ringer and John Taylor.
John Taylor signs many of the entries so probably the parish clerk.
A possible sister of John.
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Thank you so much for all this information.
I will try to see if John left a will, it may help further.
A little more progress so thanks again.
John
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John Capretz was still living on Lawrence Street in 1802.
Perhaps a directory may give us a clue to his occupation
St Ann's Soho
John Capretz son of John and Honor baptized 29 October 1780 born 7 October
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Thank you. Sorry, I don't know your name.
I wonder if you could help me again. I have another brick wall. Another possible Italian link.
We have a family called Duffell/ Deffell and other spellings. One of this family is called Reed Deffell Born 1735c His given name is also the surname of his mother Jane Reed 170oc A brother is called Florio Reed 1732c named after Jane Reed's father Florio Reed 1670c I suspect the first Florio Reed was named after another person with Florio as a surname. It may be a family trend at that time.
I hope you I am not asking too much from you but brick walls driver you potty.
Thanks
John
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Hi David Tice from NJ,USA. In response to your mother being born out of wedlock to a Felix Capretz, I believe we might be related, I have useful information. If you see this I’d like to get in contact :)