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Title: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Aynn on Monday 08 January 18 05:01 GMT (UK)
I just found that my G-G-G-G-Grandparents lived in Ballinamuck Co. Longford Anne Jane's family came from Ballymote, Co Sligo (not sure where John came from)  they were married in 1830. From what I understand John converted to the Methodist religion and his father disowned him, (not sure if this is true or not) they moved to Ballyfarnon Co. Roscommon.  I am hoping that there is some where that I can get more info on them.

Thanks
Aynn
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Monday 08 January 18 07:06 GMT (UK)
John converted to the Methodist religion....from what Religion?
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Monday 08 January 18 07:09 GMT (UK)
John Ballam | of Ballyfarnon | ... Died Aug 15th 1881 | Aged 70 (?) Years | And His Beloved Wife | Anne Jane (?) | who died June 27 1897 | Aged 85 (?) Years

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/roscommon/photos/tombstones/roscommon-kilronan-coi/target3.html
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Monday 08 January 18 07:18 GMT (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Ballyfarnan/Ballyfarnan/1656536/
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Monday 08 January 18 07:20 GMT (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Manorhamilton/Manorhamilton_Town__part_of_/657617/
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Monday 08 January 18 07:21 GMT (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Sligo/Sligo_North__Urban_/Rathquarter/756395/
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Monday 08 January 18 07:29 GMT (UK)
Deceased Surname Ballam
Deceased Forename George Wesley
Primary Beneficiary/Executor Anna O'Connor Ballam
Sec. Beneficiary/Executor George A Brittain
Date of Death17 Dec 1913
County of Death Leitrim


....also on g/stone!!

http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639258939
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Monday 08 January 18 07:57 GMT (UK)
 Birth, Marriage and Death results for Ballam irishgenealogy

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Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Aynn on Monday 08 January 18 19:56 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for all the info on John and Anne Jane's son  and the gravestone.  I don't know what religion they were before, however I would hazard a guess of either Anglican or Protestant.
Again Thank you so much
Aynn
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 10 January 18 07:44 GMT (UK)
I had forgotten that I had photographed that Cemetery!!   ;D
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Maureen Houston on Wednesday 24 January 18 11:03 GMT (UK)
John Ballam had nine children - Harriett no5 m.Francis A. Brittain.- memoir in Leitrim Library by son in law, states Harriett said the Ballam family came from Ballinamuck. This is famous for the battle in 1798
where John and Thomas Ballam were serving officers in Royal Longford Millitia. However I believe Ballinamuck is referrred to as an area and John's  family actually lived in Cloone parish which is 4 miles away across the border into Co. Leitrim. There are are a lot of records in Irish newspapers - Alexander had best bull - John(senior?) is mentioned - landlords mentioned are Duke (christian name) Crofton and the Earl of Leitrim of the townlands Errew and Gortlittera (spelt variously) These are adj. to the castle, now an hotel.  - There are a lot of Duke - (surname)  family living in Mohill. It maybe that John Ballam -senior married into the Duke family hence the name cropping up quite freqently as a christan name. The Britains were known for the Monarch Laundry in Belfast and selling cars - Morris in Dublin.
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Aynn on Wednesday 24 January 18 20:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Maureen:
Than you for the info, Is the John that you mention the father Of Duke (My direct ancestor) and Harriet or their Grandfather? is Thomas his brother? Is the "Cloone Parish"  a church or area?
Can you point me in the direction where I can research records.  I think that you have answered query's for me before.
I thank you so much
Aynn
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 24 January 18 21:25 GMT (UK)
Subject   BALLAMS   

Author   Connolly Margaret   
Title   Source  "Life and Times of Main St Manorhamilton'   

Leitrim Guardian 2012 P13 -16 
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Maureen Houston on Thursday 25 January 18 13:17 GMT (UK)
hi aynn nice to hear from you
yes we have messaged before on facebook - re royal ballams.  yes I was referring to John Ballam who married Anne Jane Hawksby and had 9 children. they married about 1837, lived Ballyfarnon.
In Cloone, Co Leitrim, an area or a parish - parish is usually a village and includes surrounding farms or in Ireland - townlands. In about 1860 and that era there is Ballam family still living in Cloone.e.g. Eniskillen Chronicle nov.1860 - article re Lord Leitrim being shot at - the tenants are all listed and Alexander Ballam and Duke Ballam, farmers, at Gortletteragh. family search also has records of 1820 Alexander Ballam m. Eliza Teggart - They have a son called William Duke - he later m. USA - 2 daughters. - so in my opinion the  name of Duke, an unusual name, repeated throughtout must point to our family line. my favourite webs - irishnewsarchive.com, - maps.osi.ie,- irishgenealgynews.com and ballymoteheritage.com - last has Corran Herald online - good reading
regards Maureen
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Aynn on Thursday 25 January 18 16:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Maureen:
Thanks so much for the reading material. Will be getting started with it.  I now in my line there was Duke who moved to NZ and then there was a second Duke 1895 - 1958, from what I understand he is the son of John Herbert Ballam.
Thanks for all the info.
Anne
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 25 January 18 16:26 GMT (UK)
The Manorhamilton ones are same lot!!
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Aynn on Thursday 25 January 18 20:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Hallmark:
Which ones in Manorhamilton, I think the Hawkesbys came from there
Thanks Aynn
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 25 January 18 21:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Hallmark:
Which ones in Manorhamilton, I think the Hawkesbys came from there
Thanks Aynn

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and on g.stone!
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 25 January 18 21:50 GMT (UK)
Leitrim Guardian.
This was an eight page paper, somewhat larger than tabloid format, selling at one
penny, which was owned by Dolan, and printed and published in Manorhamilton
every Saturday morning for seven months between July 1907 and February 1908.

The paper’s printing works were located in Balam’s (now Centra) in Upper Main
S t reet.


Sean Mac Diarmada was editor of the paper and also director of elections
for Dolan. Although only 24 years of age at the time he was already an accomplished
public speaker, and had been organiser for the Republican Dungannon Clubs in
Ulster.


https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiP3cWTivTYAhUJLMAKHUuZA-UQFgg7MAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fleitrimguardian.ie%2F2004%2FFirst%2520LG.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2ZJoHAh3oTJI7tu-_nSqpu
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Maureen Houston on Friday 26 January 18 15:57 GMT (UK)
hi            Ballam story in brief
George Wesley sold the shop in Ballyfarnon in 1903 to William Lynne and bought the shop in Manorhamilton from his son in law Francis A Brittain. The Brittains moved to Belfast. George W. died in Dec. 1913. The family moved to Belfast. The children were already attending grammer and boarding school in Belfast. They later attended university and the older boys fought in WW1 and in the 20s emi. USA. m. no children. Francis the younger boy went into banking m. 1 boy Timothy died young. The 2 girls were v. musically gifted. Anne Jane Gladys b.1897 attended the Royal Academy of Music and lived London and knew my family. I have a photo of her. died unm. Susan Eileen Winifred b. 1904, attended University College in Dublin studing music, m. George H. Spencer, lived England, had a son died young, and daughter, Wendy who m. Donagh McGillycuddy - the hereditary chief of the clan in Ireland. several living children, Wendy died 2013 in S Africa. McGillycuddy history online.  -- last of the Ballams in Ireland  -   Maureen
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Aynn on Friday 26 January 18 16:38 GMT (UK)
Wow fascinating history, Would love to see a the picture of of Anne Jane Gladys. I am finding it easier to go forward but love finding out about the types of jobs that people had back then. I have found that a few are musically inclined, some have an talent for gardening 9(like my sister got it from grandmother Bona Ballam)
Thank you for this info. but not sure what Donagh McGillycuddy - the hereditary chief of the clan in Ireland. I have seen the McGillyccuddy name but not for the Ballams.
Thank Anne
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Maureen Houston on Saturday 27 January 18 11:07 GMT (UK)
hi
photos won't upload for what ever reason - sorry M
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Aynn on Saturday 27 January 18 13:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Maureen:
I can message you through Royal Ballams with my email if you want, maybe easier.
Anne
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 January 18 14:04 GMT (UK)
A history of the Protestant Downeys of the counties of Sligo, Leitrim, Fermanagh & Donegal & their decendants :

also

of the Hawksby family, counties Leitrim & Sligo /compiled and written by Cairncross C. Downey.
Main Creator:    Downey, Cairncross C. (Cairncross Carson), 1850

Of this book three hundred copies have been printed.

Call Number BB2718    View in Main Reading Room, National Library   
Collection  Irish
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 January 18 14:55 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: Aynn on Saturday 27 January 18 17:20 GMT (UK)
WOW have seen some of the book by Cairncross it is mentioned and excerpts used in Dukes history. Too bad I am not in Ireland, would be at the library reading for sure.
Thanks for the info
Aynn
Title: Re: John Ballam and Anne Jane Hawksby Ballinamuck Co. Longford
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 January 18 17:28 GMT (UK)
Barbers in Dromahaire also connect.

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