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Title: Missing Family
Post by: s58roads on Monday 08 January 18 16:53 GMT (UK)
George Birch married Ethel Smith MacPate b 1891 in Q1 1916 Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire.
Looking for clues as to what became of them?
Geoff
Title: Re: Missing Family
Post by: [Ray] on Monday 08 January 18 17:06 GMT (UK)
Hi

What else do you know about either/both?

Freebmd only has her down as Ethel Macpate upon marriage.

Smith? Where did that come from?

Ray
Title: Re: Missing Family
Post by: Annette7 on Monday 08 January 18 17:12 GMT (UK)
I can see what you mean, Geoff - no deaths, no children, no remarriages.   They appear to vanish.

Checked in Scotland too as that is where Ethel was born but zilch.

Annette
Title: Re: Missing Family
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 08 January 18 17:20 GMT (UK)
Possibility, from s58roads' previous postings, that Ethel is from Londonderry  :-\
Title: Re: Missing Family
Post by: s58roads on Monday 08 January 18 17:23 GMT (UK)
More Info:
Ethel Smith MacPate b Kelvin, Glasgow 24 Dec 1890  mother Margaret ( Maggie ) McPate
No info on George Birch
Geoff
Title: Re: Missing Family
Post by: s58roads on Monday 08 January 18 17:42 GMT (UK)
Yet more info:
Ethel Smith McPate Statutory Births 644/09 0057 b 17 Scotia St. Glasgow. At 1891 census a Boarder with William and Sarah Milloy at 345 So Wellington St. Govan.Glasgow.
At 1901 census at Falmouth Lodge, Beach Rd in Weston Super Mare. At 1911 census at 202 High Street in Longton. Staffordshire.
Geoff
Title: Re: Missing Family
Post by: bevj on Monday 08 January 18 21:59 GMT (UK)
Maybe they emigrated?

Bev
Title: Re: Missing Family
Post by: s58roads on Tuesday 09 January 18 15:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks Bev, you may well be correct. Given this is the case where do I find them?
Geoff
Title: Re: Missing Family
Post by: s58roads on Wednesday 10 January 18 15:30 GMT (UK)
Some progress made on this case as follows:
George B Birch together with his wife Ethel (MacPate) and mother in law Margaret Trestrail (McPate) appear on the 1924 Register of Voters at 39, Abbotsford Place, Glasgow
George also appears on the 1930 Valuation Roll as a Tennant at 37, West Blackhall Street, Greenock.
In 1933 George is the Informant on the Death Certificate of his mother in law Margaret Trestrail who died at 37, West Blackhall Street Greenock.
Am now looking for birth and death details for George B Birch and the death of Ethel Birch (MacPate) which have eluded me so far.
Geoff
Title: Re: Missing Family
Post by: bevj on Wednesday 10 January 18 19:50 GMT (UK)
ScotlandsPeople has the death of a George Birch (no middle initial) in Shotts, in 1960 aged 79, which is around the right age I think.
There are other George Birches, but they are too old or too young.
I can't see Ethel at all   ???

Bev
Title: Re: Missing Family
Post by: s58roads on Wednesday 10 January 18 20:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Bev,
I have looked at this Death Cert. Image and it is not him I'm afraid but keep searching please.
Geoff
Title: Re: Missing Family
Post by: bevj on Wednesday 10 January 18 22:24 GMT (UK)
Shame :(
I can't find anything at all, anywhere, about either of these two  ??? ???
What a puzzle.