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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Brickwall Demolisher on Tuesday 09 January 18 09:39 GMT (UK)
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Hi All,
Is this an Irish brickwall? On my wife's side of the family the name going back was Parnell,as we all know, definitely Irish. We're told they had large families. Looking firstly for children drew a blank, were mystified by this?. Only when we were able to gain birth certificates we realised that they had entered the children down using their middle name and surname only on the census. We still laugh when we talk of it. Keep the thought into consideration when researching eh?
Regards JUST J.
Hi
Oh yes,
Certainly Irish, G/G/ Grandather ? born in Cahill ,Tipperary. Word past down was that a relation further down the line was, ... that you couldn't throw a stone in a local orphanage without hitting one of his children, ....... Research, the not knowing of what you may find, keeps you going. A lot of us always return back to our brickwall / s. I've yet to get into this line. More hair receding I suppose. Why do we keep doing this to ourselves. Real Pleasure I guess
REGARDS JUST J
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According to surname meaning and distribution statistics sites, Parnell seems to be an English origin surname.
First recorded in Lincolnshire?
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Well Charles Stuart Parnell was an Irish national leader.Drawing attention to Ireland's problems.
He was president of the Land League but was not i mplicated in crimes committed by some of the members.
His party supported Gladstone who was converted to Home Rule for Ireland.
Sadly his implication in a divorce at at time when divorce was almost unheard of ended his career.
He lived from the mid 1800's to almost 1900.
Very sad,well so we were taught in school,as Ireland 's future could have been very different and less violent.
I have forgotten (besides lots of other things ::)) the name of the lady in whose divorce he was implicated.
Viktoria.
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Hi All,
Is this an Irish brickwall? On my wife's side of the family the name going back was Parnell,as we all know, definitely Irish. We're told they had large families. Looking firstly for children drew a blank, were mystified by this?. Only when we were able to gain birth certificates we realised that they had entered the children down using their middle name and surname only on the census. We still laugh when we talk of it. Keep the thought into consideration when researching eh?
Regards JUST J.
Have you found Irish ancestry in your wife’s family? I don’t think it is ‘definitely Irish’.
If I understand you the names on the census were not the given names at birth but the middle name. This is often found and has been mentioned on here previously. It is not particularly an Irish phenomenon.
As you say, we have to bear these things in mind when searching.
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@ Viktoria, anent crimes in Ireland, look no further than England for the root cause!
Skoosh.
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Yes skoosh,I was avoiding getting into those deep waters but let's say you and I are not in disagreement .Viktoria.
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Just J,
Thanks for adding the explanation to your post.
In your case, Parnell is an Irish surname then. :)
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U & are certainly not in disagreement Viktoria! ;D
Slainte',
Skoosh.
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Hi,
I found this interesting info about Charles Stewart PARNELL here,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Stewart_Parnell
It shows that his PARNELL line came form Cheshire in the 17th century.
Regards,
Daisy
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A rare surname in Ireland if you do the search on Irish Ancestors:-
https://www.johngrenham.com/
Blue
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Viktoria reply #2. How could you forget the lovely Kitty O'Shea?
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Brickwall, I trust you're not advocating throwing stones at children in orphanages or anywhere else? :o Tut! The mothers of some may have had stones thrown at them.
It was said about that other great 19th century Irish leader, Daniel O'Connell that you couldn't throw a stone over a workhouse wall in Ireland without hitting one of his children. He repented later in life. He killed a man in a duel.
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Hello again J,
As you can see it doesn't take much for us to digress on here :)
Going back to your first post, there doesn’t seem to be a place called Cahill in Tipperary.
Is it Cahir or Cashell perhaps?
Heywood