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Trying to find these people on census or immigration documents - any help appreciated please!
William Armstrong b circa 1854 Ponteland, Northumberland England had arrived at his sisters by July 1883 in Spencer Creek, Antrim County, Michigan
I believe that the sister was
Mary Ann Armstrong b circa 1867 Ponteland, Northumberland, England
She was established out there but I don't know when she may have emigrated. I believe her husband may have been called George, but don't know if she married in the UK or US. Armstrong was her maiden name.
This information is based on a letter written Sept 1 1884, and she states that William had joined her there in July 1883.
Thanks
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Just to clarify - Is George the christian name or married surname ?
Sandra
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Hi there is that your tree on An.....that has Mary Ann Armstrong in the 1891 Census ???
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Just to clarify - Is George the christian name or married surname ?
Sandra
It’s the Christian name Sandra
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Hi there is that your tree on An.....that has Mary Ann Armstrong in the 1891 Census ???
I think that the search is best based on William Armstrong, the sister may have been an as yet unidentified sister, or, unlikely, Mary Ann may have returned
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In fact, it makes the letter make more sense as the sender gives her love to Mary and the boys, so presumably Mary her only sister that stayed and the boys being all the brothers.
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Looking at your post on the Handwriting Board the letter appears to be from M A Suddes , who mentions her husband George. There is a George and Mary A Suddes on the 1880 census in Antrim :
George Suddes 43 b England
Mary A Suddes 52 b England
address Helena , Antrim, Michigan.
According to the 1900 they married in 1863 and immigrated in 1879.
This looks like the marriage :
George Suddes and Mary Ann Armstrong 3 1862 Weardale Durham 10A 284
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Looking at your post on the Handwriting Board the letter appears to be from M A Suddes , who mentions her husband George. There is a George and Mary A Suddes on the 1880 census in Antrim :
George Suddes 43 b England
Mary A Suddes 52 b England
address Helena , Antrim, Michigan.
According to the 1900 they married in 1863 and immigrated in 1879.
This looks like the marriage :
George Suddes and Mary Ann Armstrong 3 1862 Weardale Durham 10A 284
This is spot on. Thank you very much. I’ve entered details into Ancestry and as it’s the US, came up with loads of detailed records. It seems that they didn’t have children, but from Mary Ann Suddes nee Armstrong’s death documentation I have now obtained the full name of her mother who is one of my direct ancestors, whom I only had as Mary before. Really, really helpful on a line I was failing to progress on. Thank you so much again! :)
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Looking at your post on the Handwriting Board the letter appears to be from M A Suddes , who mentions her husband George. There is a George and Mary A Suddes on the 1880 census in Antrim :
George Suddes 43 b England
Mary A Suddes 52 b England
address Helena , Antrim, Michigan.
According to the 1900 they married in 1863 and immigrated in 1879.
This looks like the marriage :
George Suddes and Mary Ann Armstrong 3 1862 Weardale Durham 10A 284
This is spot on. Thank you very much. I’ve entered details into Ancestry and as it’s the US, came up with loads of detailed records. It seems that they didn’t have children, but from Mary Ann Suddes nee Armstrong’s death documentation I have now obtained the full name of her mother who is one of my direct ancestors, whom I only had as Mary before. Really, really helpful on a line I was failing to progress on. Thank you so much again! :)
Forgot to say, the letter makes complete sense now, and I can place the people that are being referred to.
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I have another mystery related to this initial query.
I have found extensive records for Mary Ann Suddes nee Armstrong born 5 Sep 1828 Chollerton, Northumberland, England and died 27 Jan 1911 Helena, Antrim, Michigan, US and her husband and descendants.
I have also found extensive records for her brother Benjamin Armstrong born 22 Nov 1819 Wark, Northumberland, England, died 21 Mar 1905 Alden, Antrim, Michigan plus his wife and descendants.
Information from the letter I have written by Mary Ann in 1884 to her brother Henry Armstrong back in Northumberland, indicated that as well as Benjamin Armstrong being out in Michigan with her, another brother WILLIAM ARMSTRONG, born 1822 in Higham Dykes, Ponteland, Northumberland, also went out to Helena / Spencer Creek, Antrim County, Michigan. He arrived with them July 1883.
This is all the information I have about him. I have failed to track him in England or Michigan. All I have is his baptism record confirming this brother did exist, and the letter indicating 'In July last, William suddenly came here. He has worked at coal ovens all his life so does not know anything about farm work but does the best he can'
Can anyone help identify him either in England from birth in 1822 to is arrival in Michigan in 1883 and thereafter?
I'm guessing he didn't stay long in Michigan, he doesn't appear on any searches I've done for there, or appear as deceased in the Armstrong family graves at Helena Township Cemetery. Perhaps he went elsewhere in North America or went home.
thanks
Christian