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Title: Thomas Greer
Post by: pritchardgeo on Tuesday 09 January 18 18:11 GMT (UK)
hi
looking for an ancestor Thomas Greer surname then may have been a little different grier etc.

he had a son john greer born abt 1813 parish of st George Dublin. john is in Woolwich in 1841 and was in the royal artillery. he had a brother james born abt 1817 Plymouth east stonehouse

any information or suggestions on links to, or possible records for Thomas.
assume Thomas is from Dublin but he to could have been in the army
thank you.
brian
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 09 January 18 19:53 GMT (UK)
There are the military records.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/birth-marriage-death-armed-forces/
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 09 January 18 20:06 GMT (UK)
I can see John's service record.

First name(s)   John
Last name   Greir
Birth year   1812
Birth parish   St Georges
Birth county   Dublin
Birth country   Ireland
Service number   -
Rank   GUNNER AND DRIVER
Regiment   Royal Regiment Of Artillery
Year   1829
Attestation date   09 Jun 1829
Attestation age years   17
Discharge corps   Royal Regiment Of Artillery
Document type   Discharge
Series   Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: pritchardgeo on Tuesday 09 January 18 22:12 GMT (UK)
that's very interesting thank you.

will any records exist where I can track back to find johns birth records in Dublin. or on his fathers marriage.
read that a lot has been destroyed by fire 1941 ?

I cannot find any search finding either johns birth "he never married" or his father Thomas.

john in later life lived with his brother james greer and it from here that I found on james birth certificate that gives his father as Thomas greer occupation watchmaker

any information would be much appreciated.thanks again
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 09 January 18 22:32 GMT (UK)
Did you click on the given link?
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 09 January 18 23:22 GMT (UK)
Assuming St.George parish is a COI, there are records here
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/location.jsp?diocese=DUBLIN+%28COI%29
But I don't see your family.

Or it could refer to a Civil Parish, there are 2 Civil Parishes called St.George in County/City Dublin.

BTW the fire was 1922
https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/irish-records-burned.html
Lost most of 4 Census, Anglican parish records, Wills, (most transcripts survived), Court documents.
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 10 January 18 09:58 GMT (UK)
thank you. will follow this up
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 10 January 18 10:13 GMT (UK)
ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/DEF/Dublin-StGeorgesParishRegisterList.pdf


 www.ireland.anglican.org%2Fabout%2Frcb-library%2Flist-of-parish registers&usg=AOvVaw3fZWU7frieY1ncdnFU6YfT
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 10 January 18 10:14 GMT (UK)
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/rcb-library/list-of-parish-registers
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: rathmore on Wednesday 10 January 18 12:42 GMT (UK)
mention on family search

http://www.familysearch.org
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 10 January 18 14:51 GMT (UK)
thank you again
cannot find parish of st George Dublin though.
will keep trying
cheers
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: chinapaddy on Wednesday 10 January 18 15:04 GMT (UK)
thank you again
cannot find parish of st George Dublin though.
will keep trying
cheers
The original parish records of St. George's dating from 1794 are held at the Representative Church Body Library
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 10 January 18 15:47 GMT (UK)
thank you again
cannot find parish of st George Dublin though.
will keep trying
cheers
As the family don't appear to be in St.George COI link in Reply#5
Perhaps they are in St.George CE
Page 39 under Dublin
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf
Which as Chinapaddy has said are in the RCBL.
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 10 January 18 16:05 GMT (UK)
thank you again
cannot find parish of st George Dublin though.
will keep trying
cheers

Just go to   https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf

and use Search.... put in George!!
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 10 January 18 16:07 GMT (UK)
Page 39 !!
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Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 10 January 18 18:08 GMT (UK)
thank you
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 10 January 18 18:09 GMT (UK)
Just looking at that colour again. St George CE is grey so the register was lost in the 1922 fire.
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: athacliath62 on Wednesday 10 January 18 18:34 GMT (UK)
the C.E. stands for chapel of ease, the main parish records for St. Georges Church of Ireland survive and are on IrishGenealogy.  - sorry - missed previous reply @ 15:47

Any baptisms in the CE should have been recorded in the main register
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: pritchardgeo on Thursday 11 January 18 15:37 GMT (UK)
thank you again
looks like I have come to the end of possible searches for them both
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 11 January 18 16:21 GMT (UK)
I have asked before, but since the father may have been military, did you ever look at the military birth index?
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 11 January 18 17:03 GMT (UK)
hi
looking for an ancestor Thomas Greer surname then may have been a little different grier etc.

he had a son john greer born abt 1813 parish of st George Dublin



Where does that come from??
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: pritchardgeo on Thursday 11 January 18 19:59 GMT (UK)
I may have posted that a few days ago but in the last few posts !
not sure how it came up in that order.
thanks
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: pritchardgeo on Thursday 11 January 18 20:01 GMT (UK)
re the military births no I have not done that yet. will sign up and have a look on find my past.
will let you know how I fare
cheers
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 11 January 18 20:04 GMT (UK)
I may have posted that a few days ago but in the last few posts !
not sure how it came up in that order.
thanks

It is in the first post you made!!
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: pritchardgeo on Thursday 11 January 18 20:11 GMT (UK)
have had a quick look on find my past without opening the document.
there was a john greer birth Woolwich 1813
now this is a coincidence because this where his brother james was born and where they both appear in later census returns.
yet john gives his birth has Dublin on the 1851 census
any ideas on this ? !
thanks
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 11 January 18 20:23 GMT (UK)
I'd check Woolwich.
Title: Re: familyhistory
Post by: pritchardgeo on Thursday 11 January 18 21:00 GMT (UK)
will do cheers