RootsChat.Com

Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: mark foot on Wednesday 10 January 18 00:41 GMT (UK)

Title: constance ME Baillie
Post by: mark foot on Wednesday 10 January 18 00:41 GMT (UK)
My relation Alfred Foot from Up Cerne in dorset, worked in the 1890's at Clamis Castle as a coachman. Constance Baillie was the governess or similar. I understand she came from an aristocratic family. She was due to marry well but was jilted and on the rebound married Alfred in Chelsea, London in 1900. Her family dis-inherited her.
I am struggling to find her birth and her family details and any help would be fantastic.

Very many thanks for any help.

Mark
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 10 January 18 10:35 GMT (UK)
Hi there looking at the wedding certificate her father is John Baillie occupation sheriff officer

Her place of birth is Aberdeen from the 1911 census

This looks like the family in the 1881 Census address 4,Holburn Street Aberdeen
John Baillie age 41 b Abedeen occupation agent
Constance Baillie age 35 b England
Louisa Baillie age 9 b Old Machar Aberdeen
Constance Baillie age 6 b Old Machar Aberdeen
Alice Baillie age 11 months

Look for a birth on Scotland's People 1874 Old Machar Aberdeen Constance M Ele Baillie

Rosie
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 10 January 18 10:50 GMT (UK)
1891 Census address 20 Hanover Street Fraserburgh
John Baillie age 50 Sherriff Officer of Fraserburgh
Constance age 40
Louisa 19,Alice 15, Lilly 10, Cumine Baillie 7 (male )

1901 Census address 54 High Street fraserburgh
John Baillie 61 Sherriff Officer
Alice  AG Bailie 25
Lilly I M Baillie 20
Cumine Baillie 17
Ada A B Baillie 16b
Louise N S Baillie 29 ( soldier's wife )
Alexander D Simpson age 1 grandson

Rosie



Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 10 January 18 11:00 GMT (UK)
Marriage for her parents 19 August 1869 Old Machar Aberdeen
John Baillie
Constance Margueritte Gardiner

Rosie
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: mark foot on Wednesday 10 January 18 11:28 GMT (UK)
Very many thanks but I wonder if this is the correct person as I have her name as Constance Marguerite E Baillie and as she married in 1900 and went on to have children, I asume she was have been born around 1875. Very many thanks.
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 10 January 18 12:42 GMT (UK)
Read it all again. 1874 is 'about 1875' and it was her mother who was Constance Marguerite Gardner.
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 10 January 18 12:46 GMT (UK)
Very many thanks but I wonder if this is the correct person as I have her name as Constance Marguerite E Baillie and as she married in 1900 and went on to have children, I asume she was have been born around 1875. Very many thanks.

This is the daughter of John Baillie and Constance Marguerite Gardiner if you invest in some credits on www.scotlandspeople you can download the birth certificate for Constance M E Baillie born 1874 which will confirm the date of marriage for parents and names
Rosie
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 10 January 18 12:50 GMT (UK)
Her marriage cert 2 May 1900 also states father was a Sheriffs Officer - which matches with Rosie's transcription in 1901

Sandra
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 10 January 18 12:55 GMT (UK)
Her name on marriage Constance Margaurite Eleanor Baillie age 26

Rosie
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:00 GMT (UK)
Probate record Constance Marguerite Eleanor Foot died 8 October 1957 Hertfordshire
Husband Arthur Foot retired chauffeur

Rosie
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: mark foot on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:24 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for solving. Somewhere I saw Aberdeen as a likely area but the rumour of being from a titled background seems well off the mark. Sorry for not picking up before and suggesting the wrong person. I can only blame reading it quickly whilst having a stinking cold.

Very many thanks for your help. I have a daughter in Evanton and at sometime I will visit Fraserburgh and Aberdeen.

Mark
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:38 GMT (UK)
Think a tree owner has got a bit carried away and has the mother for Constance Margueritte Eleanor  as Constance Mary Elizabeth Cochrane -Wishart Baillie ...Countess De La Ward 1846-1929 .. ::).If you search Scotland's People you will get a death for her mother as just plain
Constance Margu Baillie died 1891 Fraserburgh age 41

Rosie
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:48 GMT (UK)
Her sister Lily Isabella Munro Baillie also  married in Chelsea 3 June 1914
St Simon Zelotes Chelsea
Spouse Charles Alex Duthie Allen
Father John Baillie sheriff officer

Another sister Louisa Mary Stone Simpson as also in Surrey  ;)

Rosie
Title: Re: constance ME Baillie
Post by: mark foot on Wednesday 10 January 18 14:24 GMT (UK)
It is very interesting how family stories are passed down. Perhaps the name Baillie had suggested the Scottish aristocracy that my relations were sure was the case. They even thought that Sandringham House was owned by the family!


A relation thought Constance may also have the name Angela as one of her names. That does seem to just an error. She a few years later, died of dementia and therefore it was very probably a confused moment.

Perhaps the war brought her sisters to Chelea and the barracks or were introduced to future husbands by Constance. Thanks Mark