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Title: REQ: John Hugkulstone Birth/Bap
Post by: Lensmeister on Wednesday 10 January 18 12:07 GMT (UK)
Morning all,

A plea for some assistance if I may.

I've been looking for one of the ancestors for some time. He is the missing link between although I know a lot about him.

John Hugkulstone.

1871 census John is living at No. 6 Little Charlotte Street in St. George's Hanover Square, Westminster aged 52. (placing his DBO abt. 1819). and gives his place of birth as Marylebone.
He is living with his wife Harriett aged 54 from Sussex (I have a lot on her family and ancestors.
Also at the house is his son Henry aged 22 born in Whitechapel. I have this birth certificate.
John's trade was Shoemaker.

I don't seem to be able to find John's birth/baptism/christening.

John married Harriet Knowles in 17 April 1842 at St. Mary's Paddington John's father being John.

On the 1851 census John was 33 and living at 16 Plummers Row Stepney and listed as a Shoe Warehouseman. and again he is listed a Marylebone as place of birth.

I did once make a note of a John's baptism possibly being 1st July 1821 but this being in St. Georges Hanover Square, Westminster. *I never got a copy of the entry as I cannot remember where I saw it (a copy of the entry would be great).

John's father (John Sr. for the purposes of clarity) was baptised in Marylebone 10th Jul 1794.

So Any help on John Jr. would be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks,

Neil.
Title: Re: REQ: John Hugkulstone Birth/Bap
Post by: groom on Wednesday 10 January 18 12:26 GMT (UK)
This one? It's on Ancestry (the image is there) and it's from the Bishop's Transcripts. Abode Marylebone and father a shoemaker.


John Hugkulstone
Baptism Date:   1 Jul 1821
Baptism Place:   St George Hanover Square, Westminster, England
Father:   John Hugkulstone
Mother:   Susannah Hugkulstone
Title: Re: REQ: John Hugkulstone Birth/Bap
Post by: Lensmeister on Wednesday 10 January 18 12:32 GMT (UK)
This one? It's on Ancestry (the image is there) and it's from the Bishop's Transcripts. Abode Marylebone and father a shoemaker.


John Hugkulstone
Baptism Date:   1 Jul 1821
Baptism Place:   St George Hanover Square, Westminster, England
Father:   John Hugkulstone
Mother:   Susannah Hugkulstone

Looks like it .... the date is the one I had but as it was about 15 years ago I have no paperwork to support it.

John is defo his father and his mother is Suzanna. So yes this is the one.

It's just a little curious that his age on census always puts him more C.1817-1819 so 1821 seemed off.

Thanks for the assist.
Title: Re: REQ: John Hugkulstone Birth/Bap
Post by: Lensmeister on Wednesday 10 January 18 12:35 GMT (UK)
Sorry forgot to ask ... Does it give his DOB or if any siblings were also christened at the same time ?
Title: Re: REQ: John Hugkulstone Birth/Bap
Post by: groom on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:13 GMT (UK)
Sorry yes missed that - three baptisms together:

Susannah
John
William Edward

That could explain the difference in dates - John was baptised as a toddler rather than as a young baby. No dates of birth unfortunately.
Title: Re: REQ: John Hugkulstone Birth/Bap
Post by: Lensmeister on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:38 GMT (UK)
Sorry yes missed that - three baptisms together:

Susannah
John
William Edward

That could explain the difference in dates - John was baptised as a toddler rather than as a young baby. No dates of birth unfortunately.

Awesome thanks Groom.

Have a good day :)
Title: Re: REQ: John Hugkulstone Birth/Bap
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 11 January 18 19:52 GMT (UK)
There are dates of birth on the image that I am looking at:-

Susannah born 20 July 1819

John born 24 November 1817

William Edward born 16 April 1821

As Groom has said parents John and Susannah, John's occupation Shoemaker
Title: Re: REQ: John Hugkulstone Birth/Bap
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 11 January 18 20:12 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage for brother William

Marriages Jun 1840 
FRANKLIN    John        Kensington    3   236
GREEN    Frances        Kensington    3   236    
HUGKULSTONE    William        Kensington    3   236    
KEMPSTER    Eliza        Kensington    3   236    
LLOYD    Harriet        Kensington    3   236    
LUXFORD    Ether Lindia        Kensington    3   236   
SPOONER    William        Kensington    3   236    
TITE    Frederick        Kensington    3   236   
Title: Re: REQ: John Hugkulstone Birth/Bap
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 11 January 18 20:22 GMT (UK)
Looks like William married the lady with the LUXFORD surname

Birth of children below

HUGKULSTONE, WILLIAM  HENRY     LUXFORD     
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01  Page 254

HUGKULSTONE, EDWARD  JOHN     LUXFORD     
GRO Reference: 1845  J Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01  Page 242

HUGKULSTONE, LUCY  EMILY     LUXFORD     
GRO Reference: 1849  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01  Page 259

HUGKULSTONE, VALENTINE  ROBERT     LUXFORD     Order
GRO Reference: 1853  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 361

HUGKULSTONE, ALICE       LUXFORD     
GRO Reference: 1856  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 387

They are in the 1861 as Hugglestone.



Title: Re: REQ: John Hugkulstone Birth/Bap
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 11 January 18 20:25 GMT (UK)
Most likely to be John Snr's death

Deaths Jun 1867   
Hugkulstone    John    73    Marylebone    1a   315
Title: Re: REQ: John Hugkulstone Birth/Bap
Post by: Lensmeister on Thursday 11 January 18 20:35 GMT (UK)
Luxford is the right one her christian name is Ethelinda (gotta love that one).

Valentine Robert as born on 14th February :)

John's father was John born in 1794 and he was married to Susanna Warner.

John's father was also a John and with a Margaret.

So far no idea the most senior John or his marriage to Margaret.