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Title: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:01 GMT (UK)
I am searching for a marriage for my deceased  uncle and his first wife.

Walter James Senior and Audrey Bowers married in 1940.

The latter was born in 1910.  Just before the war she was living at 34 Princes Street, in Southport.

I am hoping that they may have married at a Church local to the pre-war house. 

Might this be possible to have a look up?  Any help would be appreciated.

 
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:04 GMT (UK)
If you give the GRO ref, it may be possible to narrow down the church.
(although not guaranteed)
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your speedy response PaulineJ. 

Volume 8b page 2279 is the GRO reference.
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:17 GMT (UK)
not on the marriage locator website.
Looks like GRO will be the source.
High numbers USUALLY indicate Register Office events.
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:18 GMT (UK)
That's a disappointment.  Oh well, thank you for letting me know.  I do appreciate this.
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: Treetotal on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:24 GMT (UK)
I read somewhere that Register Office marriages were more common during WW2 due to bomb damage to some churches.
Carol
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:33 GMT (UK)
www.lancashirebmd.org.uk gives Register Office or Registrar attended.
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:36 GMT (UK)
Thanks for this information.  I suppose that is understandable.  Sadly, this marriage broke down and my Uncle returned to the Northumberland area that he was from.  However, he must have liked the Lancashire area as he returned to live there with his second wife who is also now deceased.

I am not sure why he went to this area in the first place and there is no one left of his generation to ask.  His only child from second marriage is deceased.  He had a son from first marriage long before I was born. 
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:43 GMT (UK)
Thank you heatherjulie,

I can see that the site does confirm registry office marriage.  I suppose registry office marriages would have increased on account of the war and he had none of his own family living down there.
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:45 GMT (UK)
Have you managed to find Walter in the 1939 Register to see what his occupation was? It might give a clue as to why he moved to the Southport area.
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Wednesday 10 January 18 13:58 GMT (UK)
I think it records him as a motor driver when I looked a while back. 

I do know he worked helping his Father, my Grandfather who was a coal merchant.   I heard he did not like this work of delivering coal.   My Grandfather is recorded as a labourer ( I know from family that he was self employed as a coal merchant and this is recorded in local directories too).
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: Gibel on Wednesday 10 January 18 16:58 GMT (UK)
The marriage could have been in a Non Conformist Church or a RC church where they had to have a registrar present hence on LancsBMD Reister Office or Registrar attended.

In the vicinity of Princes Street around that time there were 2 Methodist, 3 Congregational, 1 Baptist, 1 Welsh and 1 Synagogue. All would have probably needed a Registrar present.
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 11 January 18 11:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks for this information.  I suppose that is understandable.  Sadly, this marriage broke down and my Uncle returned to the Northumberland area that he was from.  However, he must have liked the Lancashire area as he returned to live there with his second wife who is also now deceased.

I am not sure why he went to this area in the first place and there is no one left of his generation to ask.  His only child from second marriage is deceased.  He had a son from first marriage long before I was born.
are you sure there weren' TWO sons ?  ...a few miles away in Ormskirk in 1953 there is another Senior /Bowers birth of a boy -  Ormskirk to Southport is 8 miles by road ...I certainly wouldn't rule out that birth until you have checked it out  :)
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Friday 12 January 18 02:18 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your post garstonite for your post.

My Uncle remarried in 1947.  Looking at freebmd I can see that the second marriage took place in Manchester.

I think his first wife did remarry in Ormskirk in 1961.  Perhaps she had another child between marriages or perhaps this child may have been my Uncle's. I suppose anything is possible.  I think it is a shame that our side of the family never had any contact with this first son or perhaps sons. ???
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: Radcliff on Saturday 13 January 18 10:44 GMT (UK)
I am no quite sure if this marriage is relevant
Audrey Senior and Leonard Gist
1946
St Lawrence Kirkdale


no it's not her father was George
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: Radcliff on Saturday 13 January 18 10:50 GMT (UK)
My Aunt was in Southport a few years earlier,am not sure if Audrey was involved in the war efforts but our Aunt went there prior to serving in the NAAFI  in WW2,
Title: Re: Marriage Look Up?
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Monday 15 January 18 22:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Radcliff,

Thanks for your posts.  I know virtually nothing at all about my Uncle's first wife apart from she and my Uncle had a son or perhaps from what I have read on here possibly two sons and their marriage broke down.

I have inherited two photos of my Uncle with a young woman.  These photos look as though they were taken in the forties.  I used to think these were of the Aunty I knew. (Second wife) However, these photos look radically different from her when I knew her.  I know people can sometimes change a lot in looks as they get older.  However, I am now starting to think that the photos I have may actually be of my Uncle and his first wife.

Best Wishes :)