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john Ashton born froxfield april 26 1817 wiltshire( which i cannot find) joined at age 10 april 1827 kings own light infantry militia Middlesex( earl of munster son of george 1v colonel )as bugler.7 years served george 1v and william 1v after queen victoris coronation joined 7th dragoon guards and after a year transfered to coldstream guards and served 12 years with them his free discharge was dated oct 12 1853 he went to devon until he went to nz 1858 his father according to his marriage aug 13 1840 Islington Middlesex was called Edmund a labourer but he was also recruiting sergent of the Codlstream guards and had seen a considerable amt of active service as from his bars Talavera JULY 28 1809,Salamanca July 22 1812 Egypt 1801 and Copenhagen 1807 and also present at Waterloo.Johns wife was Emma Bazeley and married 1840 Does any one know where to get the records for Edmund and John when they were serving and also if children were born at the recruiting ground were they registered Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks lnr
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Sorry, your post is difficult to understand ;)
1840 Islington marriage has
John Ashton Ashton (middle name is same as surname)
Full age - Bachelor- occupation labourer -residence Newington Green
Father Edmund Ashton occ Labourer
Emma Bazeley father William Bazeley occ Coachman
Where does the information that John & Edmund were both 'serving' in the forces come from :-\
ADDED I see from earlier posts (links below reply 6) that this is what he told the newspapers on arrival in NZ. :-\
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To help us in our search ;)
ASHTON, EDMUND JOHN HENRY mmn BAZELEY
1842 Dec Quarter
HACKNEY reg dist Volume 03 Page 173
ASHTON, AMELIA EMMA mmn BAZELEY
1847 June Quarter
HACKNEY reg dist Volume 03 Page 199
ASHTON, ALFRED JAMES mmn BAZELEY
1850 June Quarter
ISLINGTON reg dist Volume 03 Page 235
another one :-\
ASHTON, AGNES MERCY mmn BEAZLEY
1852 June Quarter
HACKNEY reg dist Volume 01B Page 256
Baptism gives parents as John & Emma fathers occ Servant.
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There is a death in Brighton for Edmund who was born in 1842.
1851 census H0107/1502 f338 p36 John is not with the family though Emma says she is married and a Servants wife. Son Alexander bn Brighton plus Amelia E and Alfred J.
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john Ashton born froxfield april 26 1817 wiltshire( which i cannot find)
joined at age 10 april 1827 kings own light infantry militia Middlesex as bugler.
7 years served
after queen victoris coronation joined 7th dragoon guards
after a year transfered to coldstream guards and served 12 years with them his free discharge was dated oct 12 1853
he went to devon until he went to nz 1858
his father according to his marriage aug 13 1840 Islington Middlesex was called Edmund a labourer but he was also recruiting sergent of the Codlstream guards and had seen a considerable amt of active service as from his bars Talavera JULY 28 1809,Salamanca July 22 1812 Egypt 1801 and Copenhagen 1807 and also present at Waterloo.
Where does all this information come from :-\
Queen Victorias coronation was 28 June 1838. The John Ashton Ashton who married Emma Bazeley was a servant when he married and on childrens baptisms.
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Are these more children in Derbyshire :-\
ASHTON, ANNE MARTHA mmn BAZELEY
1855 June Quarter
SHARDLOW reg district Volume 07B Page 323
Baptised at Melbourne Derbyshire parents John & Emma
Burial at Melbourne age 2 - 17 May 1857
ASHTON, ALICE SARAH mmn BAZELEY
1858 March Quarter
SHARDLOW reg dist Volume 07B Page 330
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Earlier posts of yours on John Ashton
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=711649.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=710026.
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I wonder ::)
John when he married gave his address as Newington Green.
1841 - Detached Cottage at the back of Newington Green
HO107 /664 bk 16 f47 p12
Edmund Ashton - Army P(ensioner) 55 not bn in County
Mary - 55
Mary - 20
William - 14 (probably Wm Philip)
Sarah - 11 (probably Lydia Sarah)
All born Middlesex except Edmund
ADDED - death
ASHTON, EDMUND age 62
1845 March Quarter
ISLINGTON reg district
burial at Hackney 26 January 1845 age 63 abode Newington Green
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Deleted
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Just in case ::)
Edmund Ashton born Chadderton, Lancashire attested 1800 age 17 - left 1822
Coldstream Regt Of Foot Guards - image is on findmypast
Fold3 also has this record but the transcript is using his age of 39 which is how old he was when he left as his age at joining giving the wrong year of birth ::)
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I can't see John & Emma in 1841 except for this possibility
Denmark Hill, Lambeth Surrey H107/1054 bk2 f39 p40
John Ashton 25 Male servant not born in Surrey
Emma Ashton 20 female servant not bn in Surrey
In the household of Angus Duncan, Charles Duncan & Donald Black -all Merchants
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Possibility in 1851
Chester Square, Saint Georges Hanover Square -
HO107 / 1477 f491 p31
John Ashton age 33 married- footman born Staley Bridge, Lancashire
wife not listed in the property.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTJ-GYL
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Hi Rosie Thanks for the info yes they are Johns children john and yes he gave all that info when interviewed in NZ. I am reaaly interested in the census with Edmund and Mary at Newington Green I will be able to try and find edmunds birth/marriage hopefully and follow up on that death That still dosent answer my question on Johns birth though thanks again very much appreciated lnr
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In August 1815 there is a baptism of an Edmund Ashton born July 1815 at St Margarets, Westminster -parents Edmund & Margaret of York Street. Edmunds occ Sergt .. Gds.
I have not yet found any earlier baptisms for children of this couple
If Edmund was still in the guards then other baptisms could be out of London
Is the only source of Johns date of birth from the newspaper article