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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: Sandi Smith on Saturday 13 January 18 19:01 GMT (UK)
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I have decided to give up on one branch and try another, I am looking for on James lamont B 1827, d 3/12/1891 in Ballmoney, Ireland (his family)and Margaret Norris b 8/9/1832 in Scotland d ??? (her family) one of their children is Mary Jane Lamont who is my great grandmother. This is all I have on James and Margraet I hope this make sense. There is another James and Margaret Lamont that went to the States, but this is not mind.
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Hi Sandi
Your post is in the NZ forum. Did James Lamont and Margaret Norris emigrate to NZ or did they stay in Ireland as you have a death date for James in Ballmoney?
Where was Mary Jane Lamont born? When?
Just need to be certain which country and at what period we are meant to be searching in.
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There is this marriage for a Mary Jane LAMONT in the NZ BDM index
1882/2920 Mary Jane Lamont Andrew Wotherspoon Thorburn
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This is possibly her death
1904/2660 Thorburn Mary Jane 49Y
Later note - I've found a burial for this person on Ancestry, on 8/5/1904, at Wainui cemetery, near Silverdale, north of Auckland. This person was born in New Zealand.
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An internet search for "Andrew Wotherspoon Thorburn" nets many leads if he turns out to be a person of interest in your family line, aka "Andrew Weatherspoon Thorburn".
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Sandi kindly sent me a pm with this information
Margaret and James didn't emigrate to New Zealand,
Mary Jane Lamont was born in Ireland 1855 and she emigrated to New Zealand. All I know Margaret's father's name was Robert and so was James. Hope this help a little.
I think Sandi is looking to go back James Lamont's and Margaret Norris's parents.
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There are Lamonts from outside Ballymoney in County Antrim but I'm not sure these are the ones you are looking for.
A James Lamont and Margaret Norris (married 1850) were having children in County Tyrone-
Peggy Jane (1865) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03556/2309304.pdf
Margaret (1869) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03400/2246844.pdf
Adam (1872) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03227/2182830.pdf
Marriage of Margaret Norris & James Lemon (1850)- this extracted record lists both fathers as Robert-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGV8-2R39
Possible death for James Lamont (1893)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/05996/4706064.pdf
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An internet search for "Andrew Wotherspoon Thorburn" nets many leads if he turns out to be a person of interest in your family line, aka "Andrew Weatherspoon Thorburn".
These marriages on NZ BDM..........
1882/2920 Mary Jane Lamont Andrew Wotherspoon Thorburn
1881/2297 Jane Elizabeth Ruddell Andrew Wetherspoon Thorburn
Minniehaha.
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Interesting - a birth for an Mary Jane LAMONT, most likely the one marrying and dying above, in New Zealand in 1855.
1855/1899 Lamont Mary Jane Eliza William
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Yes, all very confusion at the moment. Wonder if OP has been collecting details of different families or picked up things from an online tree :-\
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A copy of the New Zealand LAMONT family gravestone - from Ancestry
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A copy of the New Zealand LAMONT family gravestone - from Ancestry
Which doesn't fit OP's original post but then Lamonts from Ballymoney, Co. Antrim aren't the same as James Lamont & Margaret Norris.
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The marriage for the above William and Eliza?
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Death notice for Mary Jane who died on 6.5.1904......
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19040507.2.45.1?query=mary%20jane%20thorburn
Minniehaha.
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Further to reply #10.......
Death notice for William Lamont:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18941130.2.70.28.3?query=william%20lamont
Death for wife Eliza:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18800218.2.13?query=william%20lamont
[However death registrations not found for daughters Margaret Lamont & Jane Thorburn.]
Added:However this may be the registration for one of the girls?....
1885/2271 Lamont Margaret 25Y
Actual date was April 11th.
Minniehaha.
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Minniehaha - I have Jane's death registration in a previous post. It also looks like the gravestone has the wrong details for Jane.
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Minniehaha - I have Jane's death registration in a previous post. It also looks like the gravestone has the wrong details for Jane.
Hi John,
I just wondered if the Mary Jane who died on 6.5.1904 and the Jane who is said to have died in November 1905, were one and the same?
Minniehaha.
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It wouldn't be the first stone I've seen with the wrong details.......even my mother's memorial has her age wrong!
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The adjacent plot has a memorial for Jane
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All is now clear. Thanks John........... ;D
Minniehaha.
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Death notice for the 17 year old daughter of Mary Jane. Father not mentioned.....
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19010502.2.2.2?query=thorburn%20may
Minniehaha.
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New Zealand Herald, 26th February 1892
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I'm picking that Mary Jane married the father of the Andrew THORBURN who married Jane Elizabeth RUDDELL. The older Andrew's previous wife, Margaret Ann, died in 1880. The older Andrew died at the age of 70, in 1901.
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IGI
Peggy Jane Lamont
Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name Peggy Jane Lamont
Gender Female
Birth Date 22 Nov 1865
Birthplace 0471,COAGH,TYRONE,IRELAND
Father's Name James Lamont
Mother's Name Margaret Norriss
IGI
Mary Jane Lamond
Gender Female
Christening Date 12 Sep 1853
Christening Place TAMLAGHT BY MONEYMORE,LONDONDERRY,IRELAND
Father's Name James Lamond
Mother's Name Margaret.
IGI
Adam Lamont
Gender Male
Birth Date 16 Nov 1872
Birthplace Coagh, Tyrone, Ireland
Father's Name James Lamont
Mother's Name Margaret Noris.
IGI
Eliza Lamont
Gender Female
Birth Date 26 Apr 1869
Birthplace Tyrone, Ireland
Father's Name James Lamont
Mother's Name Margaret Norris
IGI
Thomas Lamont
Gender Male
Birth Date 07 May 1871
Birthplace Tyrone, Ireland
Father's Name John Lamont
Mother's Name Margaret Norris
IGI
Sarah Lamond
Gender Female
Birth Date 01 Aug 1851
Birthplace TAMLAGHT BY MONEYMORE,LONDONDERRY,IRELAND
Father's Name James Lamond
Mother's Name Margaret
James Lamont and Mary Norris - Possibly married in Drumads, Londonderry Northern Ireland, James LAMONT or Lemon (maybe mispelled)(DOB; bef 1829). Father was Robert LAMONT. James married Margaret NORRIS on 21 Nov 1850.
IGI means Familysearch.org
------> James Lamont's father Robert Lamont? Robert Lamont of Knocknakeilt, Maghera, owned 25 acres (Not to far' away from Colaght, can not prove it though, published 1876) http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/16252/page/194693
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I posted details (links to actual certificates not extracted information) yesterday- see reply #6.
It's still not clear what or who OP is looking for as the original post mentions Lamonts in 'Ballmoney' [Ballymoney] which could be the Lamonts of Eden (near Ballymoney, Co. Antrim) and James Lamont & Margaret Norris (Tyrone family) yet has posted on New Zealand board. I think they've been online earlier but have not posted on this thread again to clarify anything.
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James lamont that died 3/12/1891 in Ballmoney, Ireland has a will and his son James Lamont of Kirkinriola was born in Antrim. Joseph, John, Jane, Thomas and Elizabeth (married name Harbison) seem to be other children.
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=201686
Seems like Mary Norris was not the wife of this James Lamont. So yes looks like two different families ...... Sandi might just be jumping to the conclusion that the only James Lamont death she found is her ancestor.
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At this stage I would like to say a BIG Thank you to all the information you have given me and I will look into it abit more, some are mine. Again THANK YOU ;D
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Just to clarify this post-
James lamont that died 3/12/1891 in Ballmoney, Ireland has a will and his son James Lamont of Kirkinriola was born in Antrim. Joseph, John, Jane, Thomas and Elizabeth (married name Harbison) seem to be other children.
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=201686
Seems like Mary Norris was not the wife of this James Lamont. So yes looks like two different families ...... Sandi might just be jumping to the conclusion that the only James Lamont death she found is her ancestor.
Here's the death for James Lamont died 3 Dec.1891 at Kirkinriola (Ballymena registration district) and his son lived at Ballymena-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06057/4726507.pdf
and here's the Will extract from PRONI's site-
The Will of James Lamont late of Kirkinriola County Antrim Farmer who died 3 December 1891 at same place was proved at Belfast by James Lamont Junior of Kirkinriola Farmer the surviving Executor.
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At this stage I would like to say a BIG Thank you to all the information you have given me and I will look into it abit more, some are mine. Again THANK YOU ;D
Which ones are yours?
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Just to clarify this post-
James lamont that died 3/12/1891 in Ballmoney, Ireland has a will and his son James Lamont of Kirkinriola was born in Antrim. Joseph, John, Jane, Thomas and Elizabeth (married name Harbison) seem to be other children.
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=201686
Seems like Mary Norris was not the wife of this James Lamont. So yes looks like two different families ...... Sandi might just be jumping to the conclusion that the only James Lamont death she found is her ancestor.
Here's the death for James Lamont died 3 Dec.1891 at Kirkinriola (Ballymena registration district) and his son lived at Ballymena-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06057/4726507.pdf
and here's the Will extract from PRONI's site-
The Will of James Lamont late of Kirkinriola County Antrim Farmer who died 3 December 1891 at same place was proved at Belfast by James Lamont Junior of Kirkinriola Farmer the surviving Executor.
Sorry this one I think is not mine
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Sorry this one I think is not mine
What about the other families then- which do you think might be yours?
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Death notice for Mary Jane who died on 6.5.1904......
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19040507.2.45.1?query=mary%20jane%20thorburn
Minniehaha.
Sorry this is not mine
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Sorry this one I think is not mine
What about the other families then- which do you think might be yours?
whiteout7 had Peggy Jane lamond and a list which is mine. Did you ever find out who OP is or what?
Thank you so much ;D
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whiteout7 had Peggy Jane lamond and a list which is mine. Did you ever find out who OP is or what?
Thank you so much ;D
OP = Original Poster i.e. you.
If The Peggy Jane Lamont from Tyrone is your connection then you can disregard most of the others posted on this thread.