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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: LMFAO on Sunday 14 January 18 16:14 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone find a marriage for me please?
I have posted here on the Wiltshire board but the marriage if it did take place could be anywhere.
I have Elizabeth Harris born in 1875 Redlynch Wiltshire. She gave birth to an illegitimate son Albert Fred Harris in 1903 in Redlynch who in 1911 is with Elizabeth's father in Redlynch.
Elizabeth can be found In 1911 at 42 Devonshire Road Foresthill London calling herself Elizabeth Oborne . She is staying with Richard and Lucy Bundy from Wiltshire.
With her she has her 5 day old daughter Kathleen Mary Oborne ( baby girl on census) and on here claims to have been married under one year which is great for narrowing down the marriage 1910? However try as I might I have been unable to find the record for her marrying Mr Oborne.
In 1935 she remarried in Wincanton Somerset as Elizabeth Oborne to Henry White.
If anyone can find the marriage I would be very grateful.
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Is there a birth registration for the baby girl under Oborne?
There is this one
Kathleen Mary Harris Oborne mothers maiden name Harris registered Jun 1911
birth district is Lewisham - what birthplace is given for Kathleen?
There is a baptism for this little girl - father shown as Stephen Oborne a gardener
address 42 Devonshire Road
Born 29 March 1911 so that fits with being 5 days at census time
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yes that is her birth registration
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Sorry did not see the baptism . Yes that was her birthday. Can I ask where you found the baptism ? This is such useful information . Thank you.
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The maiden name as Harris would be correct and the baby is registered as Oborne.
With a fathers name mentioned on the baptism, on the face of it, it's looking good for a marriage but I haven't found one yet. Could have a look for Stephen Oborne see if he is real.
The baptism is on the ancestry website.
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Could have a look for Stephen Oborne see if he is real.
Was an occupation given for Stephen on Kathleen's baptism?
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Thank you - found the baptism. He is down as a gardener.
Looking for Stephen now - as you say if he is real !!
Not too sure he really exsisted or if he did they were ever married
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I agree it looks doubtful, there don't seem to be many options for him but different spellings of the surname could hamper things.
Have you got a copy of her later marriage? I take it she describes herself as a widow and she has kept the Oborne name for whatever reason not gone back to Harris.
No more Oborne/Harris children that I can see so probably a liaison.
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Yes I have and she does describe herself as a widow.
I think having already had one illegitimate child she tried to hide the fact she had another.
Kathleen was my grandmother and she knew nothing at all about her father.
She was just told he had died when she was very young but she did not even know his first name and Elizabeth never spoke about him to her.
Probably because he was not real and nan did not have any brothers or sisters apart from Albert who she regarded as her brother.
But I will keep looking at variations of Oborne which are many!!! ::)
Thank you for your valuable help.
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This is all I've come up with on the 1901 census for you to look at and see if there are any contenders on this list
London 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Age: 70
Profession: Auctioneers Assistant
London 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1834
Profession: Steward Domestic
Surrey 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1845
Profession: Agricultural Labourer
Kent 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1849
Profession: Carman
London 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1849
Profession: Deal Porter Dock Labourer
Cambridge 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1850
Profession: Pattern Maker Ship
Kent 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1856
Profession: Shephard
Kent 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1859
Profession: General Labourer
London 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1859
Profession: Builder
Bedfordshire 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1861
Profession: House Painter
Hampshire 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1867
Profession: Farm Labourer Fields Hand
Cornwall 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1868
Profession: Clerk Draper
London 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1869
Profession: Horse Keeper On Farm Ag
Suffolk 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Age: 18
Profession: Assistant Barman
Kent 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1885
Profession: Labourer Railway Carriage Wagon Shop
Bucks 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1885
Profession: Cabinet Worker
Gloucestershire 1901 Census
Stephen Osborne
Born In: 1886
Profession: Cabinet Maker
Stephen Osborn
Born In: 1842
Profession: General Labourer On Fruit Ground
Kent 1901 Census
Stephen Osborn
Born In: 1845
Profession: Pit Sawyer
Northamptonshire 1901 Census
Stephen Osborn
Born In: 1851
Profession: Brewery Labourer
Staffordshire 1901 Census
Stephen Osborn
Born In: 1852
Profession: Foreman Confectionery
London 1901 Census
Stephen Osborn
Born In: 1859
Profession: Foreman At Biscuit Factory
London 1901 Census
Stephen Osborn
Born In: 1880
Profession: Groom Domestic
Do you have Elizabeth on the 1901 census to see where she was living at the time?
also you could check 1911c to see if there are any Stephen/Steven Osborn/e's living close by
to where Kathleen's baptism took place
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Wow - thank you for doing all of that. I will work through them and look at 1911.
In 1901 she was in service in Sunningwell in Berkshire where she probably met the father of her first child!
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Well done Ladyhawk. :)
What about Osbourn(e) ? >:(
ArsbornOrsbon? ??? ???
I know that nowhere near all are relevant, but 14000+ ?
Ouch.
Ray