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Title: CWGC Appeal for relatives of 2nd Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 15 January 18 12:11 GMT (UK)
CWGC appeal for relatives to locate the next of kin for soldiers who fell in war. Could you be connected to Second Lieutenant Thomas Guthrie ?  Second Lieutenant Thomas Guthrie of the Cameron highlanders died 27 June 1918.

FIND A GRAVE

Thomas died 27 June 1918 -  aged 24 years -  Cameron Highlanders. Son of John Guthrie (Late).

Burial -  Craigton Cemetery  Glasgow, Glasgow City, Scotland
PLOT T 502

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/28322021

This headstone inscription seems to show that his brother also died in WW1 - Stuart/Stewart Guthrie - Pvt 51 st Canadian ???  Killed in action at Ypes - 26 September 1918, aged 20 years.

If you are related to the above casualties and can provide CWGC with documentation, please contact the Enquiries Team.

https://www.cwgc.org/

Sandra

I have contacted an ancestry member who lists Thomas on a ancestry tree.
Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of Sec Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 15 January 18 12:11 GMT (UK)
Thomas Guthrie  4 Elizabeth Drive Cardonald Glasgow - 2nd Lieutenant 6th Cameron highlanders - died 27 June 1918 at Brighton testate.  Confirmation granted at Glasgow 6 th February to Lilias Clarinda Mabel Bennie or McIntosh 1276 Paisley Road West Glasgow his aunt Executrix nominated in  will or deed dated 17 March 1917 and recorded in Court Books of Commissariot of Lanark 20 January 1919 - value of estate - £542  18 s 7d.

Sandra
Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of Sec Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 15 January 18 12:13 GMT (UK)
Could be this family - 35 Caird Drive Govan Glasgow 1901

John S Guthrie   39 Isabella Guthrie   36
Thomas Guthrie   7 Newton Guthrie   6
Stuart Guthrie   4
Lizzie Bennett   50 Servant.

Sandra

Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of Sec Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 15 January 18 12:43 GMT (UK)
There are Canadian Attestation Papers for Newton Bernard Guthrie - 29 September 1894 - Glasgow Scotland - Residence Alberta College Edmonton - regiment number  911282 - bank clerk - presbyterian - wife Mrs Faye Guthrie Killan Alta Canada. Had previously served about 3 months with the 35 th central horse (June - July 1914 - volunteers)
Made his declaration - 29 February 1916 - sailed from Halifax - per SS Southland - 31-10-1916
Lance Cpl Guthrie - theatre of war France - date of service 18/6/1917
196 battalion (Western Universities)
Latest addres C/O Mr Buchanan - 10540 - 126 th Street - Edmonton
Admitted convalescent hospital Woodcote Park Epsom - 18 January 1918 - 2 WGH Manchester ? - gun shot wound - left thigh flesh. Discharged 8-5-1918 to 2 CCD Bramshott
Many more entries 1916/1917
Discharges from service 18/18/1918
Has a son bernard Guthrie - 7 months. States father and mother are not living.

19 January 1918 - Wound not severe. he was gassed. General condition is not good. Marked Tachycardiac cerebral ? No duty.



https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=431903




Sandra

Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of Sec Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 15 January 18 12:48 GMT (UK)
Newton Guthrie married Faye C L Roberts - 1915 - Edmonton Canada - 2554

Sandra
Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of Sec Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 15 January 18 13:10 GMT (UK)
Alberta Death Index - Newton Bernard Guthrie - passed away 18 June 1941 - Edmonton Alberta -
Registration Number - 101-475

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Newton Bernard Guthrie -  Edmonton Municipal Cemetery  Edmonton, Edmonton Census Division, Alberta, Canada
PLOT K 83 05

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/168325728

http://webproxy.edmonton.ca/external/cemeteries/default.aspx

Sandra
Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of Sec Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 15 January 18 13:45 GMT (UK)
Not sure if there is a discrepancy in this date/year of birth - Canadian Attestation papers for John Stuart Guthrie - 21 May 1893 - Glasgow Scotland - bank clerk -
 brother Newton Guthrie - Killan Alberta - John's Regiment Number 437507
Attested Edmonton 26 July 1915 - Sailed from Halifax per SS Missanabie - 18/4/1916

Killed in action 29 September 1916

Medals and decorations went to sis-in-law Mrs Faye Guthrie (General Delivery) Alta.

Plaques and scrolls went to brother Newton Guthrie (General Delivery) Alta

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B3895-S013

Sandra
Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of 2nd Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 15 January 18 14:00 GMT (UK)
John Stuart Guthrie - 29 September 1916 (aged 20 years)

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/1568727

http://somme-roll-of-honour.com/Units/canadian/7th_Canadian_Infantry_CEF.htm

http://www.canadaatwar.ca/memorial/world-war-i/date/3/19160926/

Sandra
Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of 2nd Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 15 January 18 14:51 GMT (UK)

Parents marriage -

John Stewart Guthrie - Isabella Johnston Bennie - 1891 - 573/ 400 - Paisley

Death of mother -

Isabella Johnston Guthrie - 46 years - 1910 - 646/1 20 - Plantation

Possible for father -

John Guthrie -  52 years -  1916 644/1 468 - Bridgeton

Sandra
Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of 2nd Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: RunKitty on Monday 15 January 18 16:24 GMT (UK)
Newton Bernard's obituary is in the Lethbridge Herald, June 19 1941. 

Headline is "Chief Accountant of Liquor Board Dies".  Bernard Guthrie of Edmonton, 46, chief accountant of the Alberta Liquor Control Board for the past 11 years died in hospital following a major operation.  Mr Guthrie had been employed by the control board for the past 17 years.  Born in Scotland, Mr Guthrie was a veteran of the First Great War.  He is survived by his widow and one son. 

Unfortunately, the obituary doesn't name the son.  (but you posted his name earlier... it appears to be in Newton Bernard's military record)

RK

Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of 2nd Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: RunKitty on Monday 15 January 18 16:39 GMT (UK)
Looking for Bernard Guthrie/Faye etc on the 1921 Canada census. 

Strange - there is a Bernard Guthrie, roomer, 26, born Scotland, came to Canada in 1911, book-keeper for the government.  Census says he is single ???. 

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002860036

RK
Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of 2nd Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 15 January 18 16:54 GMT (UK)
Thanks RK - Great finds. Your a "wee star" -  CWGC require quite a close relative - so was hoping to find the son "B" and perhaps his children.

Thanks
Sandra  ;) 
Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of 2nd Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 15 January 18 17:06 GMT (UK)
Sorry forgot to say there was a marriage of a Newton B Guthrie 1924 Edmonton to Margaret M Collins. So did he remarry ?

Sandra
Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of 2nd Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: WeeBawbee on Thursday 29 October 20 22:27 GMT (UK)
I know this is nearly 3 years later but I was searching for my first cousin 3 times removed, Lilias Clarinda Mabel Bennie, and found this thread. Thomas Guthrie is my second cousin twice removed, through his mother, also my first cousin 3 times removed, Isabella Johnston Bennie. I don’t have any documentation though except for my family tree. Am I too late? Or is this any help?
Title: Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives of 2nd Lieut Thomas Guthrie
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 20 November 20 13:08 GMT (UK)
Sorry I didnt see your message for some reason.  Will pm you.

Regards
Sandra