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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: betton39 on Monday 15 January 18 15:55 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help
I'm filling in the gaps ... at the moment I'm working on a little mistery . my husband's side
A long story short
One of my husband's aunties is pulled out of "Smithy Pond" wingerworth. Having drowned herself.
The poor girl has fallen in love with an American airmen, and found out he's married.
Her name was never mentioned again.
Who was this poor unfortunate lady?
I know she was the daughter of Richard and Elizabeth Betton, she was born before 1924 in Tupton.
I have been given a few names of what her name could be but nothing concrete...
It could be Mary Ann, or flora, or Jessie????
Can't find anything on ancestry to help
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What was the maiden name of her mother
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Lowe. But nothing's coming up in ancestry. Eat yod, 1943- 45 ish
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Can't see a 'Betton' death record for a young lady in the time frame posted ???
JJ
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Is it Chesterfield registration district?
Looking for female births Betton/Lowe there is a Mary A in Jun 1915 might that be her.
Have you looked for a newspaper report of the incident? Now we know her name might be Mary A to search for and get a year it happened :)
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Richard Betton married Elizabeth Lowe in 1903.
They had the following children
Elizabeth 1904
Ada 1905 (mar Richard Thom 1925)
Emma 1908
Richard 1910
William 1912
Valentine 1914
Mary A 1915
then 3 sons 1917/1920/1924
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I know it's not a made up story, my husband's dad was requested by the police, to go in the pond and get her out. And then to identify her.
The family lived in new Tupton Derbyshire, and she was found in "smithy pond" wingerworth.
My husband's got it in his head it's a cover up! Lol, I can't find anything. Apparently the date I gave was when the American forces were "over here"
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Is it possible she was a married lady so any report or death registration would be under another surname ie not Betton?
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Looking at a family tree it has Mary Ann marrying and passing away in 2004 so not her.
However it does have Emma passing away in 1930-1933 so could she be a contender or is that too early? She wouldn't have been very old then if born 1908.
Having said that I don't see a death registration for her in those years :-\
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So you have come across the same dead ends as me, I'm wondering if there's a sister I haven't found yet???
I kept hitting a brick wall,.
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Yes need to find a death registration first and work from there. The surname could be spelled incorrectly but any other scrap of information however small might be the key to unlock the mystery.
I wonder if she was from another generation of the family or an in law if you see what I mean.
It must have been reported at the time if police were involved. Poor lady :(
There's an Alice Betton died 1944 age 54 but am assuming we are looking for a younger lady - or is it wrong to assume that :-X
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The thing is during the war, Frederick (1924), was quite close to the police, I'm wondering now if it hadn't been covered up somehow, the village of Tupton was quite close knit, although we know the reason why, maybe it wasn't common knowledge, still doesn't explain why I can't find a name nor the death
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Thought of something else - what about looking for a burial/gravestone? If it was a small village the family would likely be buried in the same churchyard or cemetery if there was one.
A headstone for her parents for example may mention her even if we can't find one for her individually. Something to investigate perhaps :)
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Hi
http://tuptonlocalhistorysociety.com/
There are contact details for someone named Colin on the site.
Perhaps he knows someone who may be able to help you?
Regards
Giggsy