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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: Gene Genius on Tuesday 16 January 18 05:19 GMT (UK)
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I'd like some info please on the above. DOB 6 Nov 1906 in Walsall possibly Bloxwich
Her middle name may have been Maud
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STANLEY, DOROTHY MAUD. mmn CLINTON
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 690
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Thank you. Anything on the 1911 Census please?
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Possible marriage for mother..
Ada Louisa Clinton married Herbert Henry STANLEY. Jun 1902 Upton 6c 485
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Can't find her in 1911, have you any more info.
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I have her marriage in 1929 and death in 1945. She was in the 1939 Register living in Buckley. Married name Wilcock.
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Try Birmingham for 1911 father Hubert Stanley, did she have an older sister Blanche?
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I really don't know, sorry.
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WILLIAM CHARLES STANLEY, mmn CLINTON
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 746
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Having doubts about the Stanley- Clinton marriage
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Another marriage possibility ...
George Stanley m Mary Maria Clinton. Dec 1897 Lichfield 6b 829
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I know her birthday was definitely 6.11.06 from the 1939 register.
After searching the only birth certificate I could find was the Walsall one.
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I know her birthday was definitely 6.11.06 from the 1939 register.
After searching the only birth certificate I could find was the Walsall one.
Thats the only one I could find with mmn Clinton.
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Yes. The name Clinton is news to me.
Dorothy had 3 children Edna Enid and Edward so if these names appear in their ancestry then that would be a pointer.
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If she married a Wilcock there is this marriage...
Dorothy Stanley m Herbert Wilcock. Dec 1929 Hawarden 11b 416. Hawarden is in Wales.
1939 Register living in Buckley. Buckley is in Wales.
Better move our search.
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Yes I mentioned that I had these before.
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How sure are you of her marriage to Wilcock? There's a more likely marriage..
Dorothy M Stanley m Bernard I Osborne. 1937 Walsall, Staffordshire 6B 2109
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Categorically sure
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So you've got her birth and marriage certs with her fathers name.
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I was given Dorothy's parents names by her daughter
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So which one's are they, Ada and Herbert or George and Mary ? Just to make sure we are looking for the right people.
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We're at cross purposes.
I only know her husband's name was Herbert Wilcock.
That's why I'm asking for help.
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I think you need to get her birth or marriage cert to be sure of her fathers name.
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baptism 17.10.1906 St Michael & All Angels Pelsall Staffordshire Dorothy Maude Stanley born 16.9.1906 father George Stanley labourer of Grove Farm mother Maria
I think you need to invest in the marriage certificate
Willow x
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1939 Register
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Possible Death Dec 1907
STANLEY Dorothy Maud age 1
Cannock 6b 301
The marriage details on the GRO index do not give a middle initial for Dorothy. There are 3 Dorothy Stanleys birth registered in March qtr 1907 which could also be her and registered late.
Dates of birth on the 1939 are not guaranteed to be accurate
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Well at the moment I Have found a Judith Dorothy Stanley registered in the last quarter of 1906 in Gloucestershire and a Dorothy Stanley registered on the last quarter of 1906 in Ireland so I think it still comes down to the marriage certificate
Willow x
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Ok. Thank you everyone.
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Like I said before, I think you need to get some certs. If you are sure she married a Wilcock in 1929 then get the marriage cert. If she was the daughter of George and Maria as Willow 4873 and I found why is she not with them in a possible 1911 census, the death found by rosie99 is a possibilty which I think is likely.
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Other things are bothering me too. Dorothy had three children and yet only two are with her on the 1939 Census and the girls were twins.
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Other things are bothering me too. Dorothy had three children and yet only two are with her on the 1939 Census and the girls were twins.
I don't think this is the right 1939, like you say only 2 children and one of them may not be her child.
ADDED. I found the births of the twins but can't find a birth for their son. Your right one of the twins is missing
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Found the birth for their son, the 1939 has his given names reversed or they are reversed on birth.
Found marriages for all 3.
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baptism 17.10.1906 St Michael & All Angels Pelsall Staffordshire Dorothy Maude Stanley born 16.9.1906 father George Stanley labourer of Grove Farm mother Maria
I think you need to invest in the marriage certificate
Willow x
Going through the process of elimination I'm pretty sure it's not this one as the birth is 16.9.1906.
The OP says the birth is 6.11.1906, the GRO has this one that I think is correct...
STANLEY, DOROTHY MAUD CLINTON
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 690
This eliminates the fathers name as George so maybe her father is Herbert Henry Stanley who married Ada Louisa Clinton in 1902.
I can't find Herbert Henry in the 1911 but there is Ada Stanley as a widow in Walsall as a visitor with the Street family. Dorothy is not there but maybe she is with her grandparents of another relative somewhere.
The plot thickens.
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Although the 1911 says Ada Louisa Stanley(widow) was born 1876 Walsall, the GRO has no record but there is...
CLINTON, ADA LOUISA mmn BACK
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 200
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baptism 17.10.1906 St Michael & All Angels Pelsall Staffordshire Dorothy Maude Stanley born 16.9.1906 father George Stanley labourer of Grove Farm mother Maria
I think you need to invest in the marriage certificate
Willow x
Going through the process of elimination I'm pretty sure it's not this one as the birth is 16.9.1906.
The OP says the birth is 6.11.1906, the GRO has this one that I think is correct...
STANLEY, DOROTHY MAUD CLINTON
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 690
This eliminates the fathers name as George so maybe her father is Herbert Henry Stanley who married Ada Louisa Clinton in 1902.
I can't find Herbert Henry in the 1911 but there is Ada Stanley as a widow in Walsall as a visitor with the Street family. Dorothy is not there but maybe she is with her grandparents of another relative somewhere.
The plot thickens.
I thought that one had died in infancy :-\
Possible Death Dec 1907
STANLEY Dorothy Maud age 1
Cannock 6b 301
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I thought that one had died in infancy :-\
Possible Death Dec 1907
STANLEY Dorothy Maud age 1
Cannock 6b 301
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I agree with you rosie99, the Dorothy b Nov 1906 died 1907 but the Dorothy b 16 Sep 1906 is not on the GRO or anywhere else. The OP said that the mmn of Clinton was new to her so I think we are barking up the wrong tree here.
The marriage to Wilcock seems ok, I've got Herbert Wilcock b 1907, Buckley, thats where Dorothy and Herbert were living in 1939. I've also found the births and marriages of their 3 children. I think Dorothy was more likely to have been born in Flintshire although I have'nt found her yet. This is doing my head in but I'm not going to give up just yet. It would really help if the OP got the marriage cert that would probably solve every thing.
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Another option...
STANLEY, DOROTHY REEVES
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in CHESTER Volume 08A Page 367
Ernest Stanley Intended Marriage Alice Ann Reeves.
25 Oct 1903, St Peter, Chester, Cheshire.
Chester is not very far from Buckley.
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If you search on the surname Stanley in the December quarter of 1906 when she was registered there is only the Dorothy Maud born Walsall and a Judith Dorothy born Wincomb who might be a possibility of she didn't use her first name
Willow x