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Title: Peter Wall
Post by: Red Tom on Thursday 18 January 18 09:49 GMT (UK)
I would be grateful for some assistance with the following - I have Peter Wall's (born Dublin c1877) family line,and he is at the family home in Bath Avenue Place,Dublin at the 1901 Irish census,but there is a possibility that he may have wound up in the workhouse at some point. I have drawn a blank for the 1911 census,and while most of his siblings settled in Garston,Lancs, I can't find him there either.How would I go about looking at the workhouse idea in Dublin?? Any offers of help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: dathai on Thursday 18 January 18 11:19 GMT (UK)
was he born Ballsbridge/Sandymount area 1878 he appears to be in Garston in 1911with his mother and a sister Anne who married a Peter O'Neill from Liverpool
on Family Search England and Wales 1911 census
Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 18 January 18 11:22 GMT (UK)
A link to the Census....

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Bath_Avenue_Place/1286762/
Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: dathai on Thursday 18 January 18 11:35 GMT (UK)
William Wall and Anastatia Kelly 1900
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10355/5769649.pdf
their daughter Anne born 1903 also appears to be with her grandmother Catherine in Garston 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01870/1728101.pdf

Anastatia appears to have died 1904
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05620/4580795.pdf

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Shaws_Cottages_Bath_Avenue/1288903/

married a Mary Kelly in 1907 ?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10108/5677569.pdf
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Shaw_s_Lane/15694/
daughter Mary age 11 is probably from his first marriage
Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: Red Tom on Thursday 18 January 18 11:59 GMT (UK)
Thank you dathai and hallmark, I must have been operating under a cloud of numptyness, so if the workhouse reference holds water, it is likely to be Liverpoo/West Derby?....or possible !y a red herring...





Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: dathai on Thursday 18 January 18 12:01 GMT (UK)
John Kane and Bridget Wall 1891
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10675/5890421.pdf

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Shaws_Cottages_Bath_Avenue/1288902/

their daughter Catherine age 19 in 1911 and son James age 15 are also in Garston with their grandmother
Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 18 January 18 13:19 GMT (UK)
LINK to Church records (https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name2fm=&name2l=connelly&namefm=&namel=wall&location=&yyfrom=1870&yyto=1898&submit=Search&sort=&pageSize=100&diocese=&parish=&century=&decade=&ddBfrom=&ddMfrom=&ddDfrom=&mmBfrom=&mmMfrom=&mmDfrom=&yyBfrom=&yyMfrom=&yyDfrom=&ddBto=&ddMto=&ddDto=&mmBto=&mmMto=&mmDto=&yyBto=&yyMto=&yyDto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&member0=&member1=&member2=&member3=&member4=&member5=&member6=&member7=&member8=&member9=&namef0=&namef1=&namef2=&namef3=&namef4=&namef5=&namef6=&namef7=&namef8=&namef9=&namel0=&namel1=&namel2=&namel3=&namel4=&namel5=&namel6=&namel7=&namel8=&namel9=&keyword=&event=)
Shows baptisms of several children including those listed in 1901 and others dathai forun marriage records for, plus Felix and Mary Catherine
Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 18 January 18 13:30 GMT (UK)
Felix WALL m Mary Jane BYRNE (widow nee ORR) in 1898
LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10436/5799964.pdf)

I don't see him on the 1901 census immediately
1911 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Pembroke_West/O_Brien_s_Place/9891/) at # 5.1 in O'Brien's Place (Pembroke West, Dublin)
Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 18 January 18 13:31 GMT (UK)
Birth record of Peter WALL on Mar 31 1878 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02966/2086665.pdfhttps://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02966/2086665.pdf) #479
Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: dathai on Thursday 18 January 18 13:45 GMT (UK)
possibly died Liverpool 1959 age 81
Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: dathai on Thursday 18 January 18 16:08 GMT (UK)
Possible grandparents Felix Wall and Anne Cassidy married 1847 with son James born 2 years before the marriage
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ld4/

James and Catherine married 1869 the civil cert would give their father's names
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ld5/
Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: Red Tom on Thursday 18 January 18 20:21 GMT (UK)
dathai and hallmark,what can I say, I'm truly grateful for all of your help,I have been saving this info to study later this evening,it'll keep me busy for a while I suspect,thank you both.
Title: Re: Peter Wall
Post by: Red Tom on Friday 19 January 18 11:02 GMT (UK)
Quote from: myluck! on Thursday 18 January 18 13:31 GMT (UK)
Birth record of Peter WALL on Mar 31 1878 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02966/2086665.pdfhttps://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02966/2086665.pdf) #479
My apologies myluck!, I was that busy making notes yesterday,I neglected to thank you for your assistance,I appreciate your help.