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Title: Marriage 1884
Post by: willow2670 on Thursday 18 January 18 18:40 GMT (UK)
If anyone access to FindMyPast could they please look-up a marriage for
Francis Edward LESTER, 1884, Dublin South.

If possible, any details it holds.

Many thanks

Sue
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 18 January 18 18:45 GMT (UK)
No need for Find My Past it's free on Irish Genealogy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1884/10891/5978289.pdf
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: dathai on Thursday 18 January 18 18:54 GMT (UK)
This family ?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ld6/

mothers name appears to be Rigwell or Rywell on other births and baptisms
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 18 January 18 19:01 GMT (UK)
I wonder if this is Teresa Kinsley's father
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rotunda/Hardwicke_Street/1330971/
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: dathai on Thursday 18 January 18 19:17 GMT (UK)
Archibald Willis and Elizabeth Kinsley 1904
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633798#page/211/mode/1up

mothers name Alice McEntee

died in 1880 at Golden Lane from debility from childbirth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1880/06460/4857555.pdf
Glasnevin shows her burial and Ellen Kinsley age 1 day 1880
Ellen's birth or death not registered
https://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: willow2670 on Thursday 18 January 18 19:31 GMT (UK)
Many thanks to you all, wonderful finds.

I am in contact with a lady aged 85 who we match with our dna as 2nd cousins,
and for the life of me, I cannot find out how  ::)

Her ancestors were Edward Lester & his wife Teresa Kinsley.

I have worked forward on the line of Edward Lester & nothing comes close to me,
so now attempting Teresa Kinsley's line.

This gives me something to work on.

Sue
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: willow2670 on Thursday 18 January 18 19:33 GMT (UK)
This family ?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ld6/

This could well be.  ;D
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 18 January 18 19:35 GMT (UK)
It's looks like Teresa's mother is Alice McEntee, there are baptisms to the same address as Teresa's marriage just haven't found Teresa yet.
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: willow2670 on Thursday 18 January 18 19:44 GMT (UK)
Archibald Willis and Elizabeth Kinsley 1904
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633798#page/211/mode/1up

Never knew of this site. Great find.
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 18 January 18 19:57 GMT (UK)
What name are you researching?

Willis?
Kinsley?
Lester?
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 18 January 18 20:00 GMT (UK)
 Birth, Marriage and Death results for Lester

Displaying results 1 - 100 of 1377.   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ld7/

You can Select from locations or by decades from list in left
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 18 January 18 20:09 GMT (UK)
Alice died as a result of child birth (20 days later if I'm reading it correctly) in 1880.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1880/06460/4857555.pdf
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 18 January 18 20:29 GMT (UK)
On the marriage both Edward and Teresa are minors so under 21 so she has to have been born after 1863.
and the couple we think are her parents married in 1864.
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: willow2670 on Thursday 18 January 18 20:46 GMT (UK)
What name are you researching?

Willis?
Kinsley?
Lester?

LESTER & KINSLEY
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 18 January 18 20:50 GMT (UK)
What name are you researching?

Willis?
Kinsley?
Lester?

LESTER & KINSLEY


Birth, Marriage and Death results for Lester

Displaying results 1 - 100 of 1377.   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ld7/

You can Select from locations or by decades from list in left.....


You can just do a New Search, put Surname in only, you can then Select from locations or by decades from list in left.....
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 18 January 18 20:58 GMT (UK)
If you know they were all in Dublin you can Select Dublin, then do them by decades
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 18 January 18 22:15 GMT (UK)
A possible baptism
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lda/

Image is slightly better on NLI, I think it could be Teresa any one agree?
There looks to be a l as second letter in the mother's name.
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: willow2670 on Thursday 18 January 18 23:19 GMT (UK)
A possible baptism
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lda/

Image is slightly better on NLI, I think it could be Teresa any one agree?
There looks to be a l as second letter in the mother's name.

That's got to be her. Great find.  ;D
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: Sinann on Friday 19 January 18 00:23 GMT (UK)
If your connection isn't on the Lester side it could be through one of the Kinsley children.

Teresa born 1864 married Lester
Elizabeth born 1868 married Willis
Mary born 1870 married Peter Bryce
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10355/5769527.pdf
Alice born 1872 married John Joseph Nolan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10500/5823903.pdf

I don't see anymore children for them.
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: hallmark on Friday 19 January 18 09:31 GMT (UK)
My advice is to look at the link to Lesters and select Marriages, you might spot something that we'd miss....you can see who they married
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: myluck! on Friday 19 January 18 10:30 GMT (UK)
John KINSLEY m Alice McENTEE on Jan 31 1864 LINK (https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.nicholas_mf_1822-1880_ma_0221)
Gives parents names - Christopher KINSLEY & Mary (possibly Whitty from other records) and Terence McENTEE and Eliza (not shown)
Civil Reference is not yet online LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1a0c0e16201777?b=https%3A%2F%2Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fcivil-perform-search.jsp%3Fnamefm%3Djohn%26namel%3Dkinsley%26location%3D%26yyfrom%3D1864%26yyto%3D1864%26submit%3DSearch)

I can only see one other child besides those already found
1864 Teresa (based on baptism found)
1866 Catherine LINK to Birth record (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03510/2290714.pdf); possibly died in 1867 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/f62aa220733026?b=https%3A%2F%2Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fcivil-perform-search.jsp%3Fnamefm%3D%26namel%3Dkinsley%26location%3D%26yyfrom%3D1867%26yyto%3D1867%26submit%3DSearch%26sort%3D%26pageSize%3D100%26century%3D%26decade%3D%26exact%3D%26ddBfrom%3D%26ddMfrom%3D%26ddDfrom%3D%26ddPfrom%3D%26mmBfrom%3D%26mmMfrom%3D%26mmDfrom%3D%26mmPfrom%3D%26yyBfrom%3D%26yyMfrom%3D%26yyDfrom%3D%26yyPfrom%3D%26ddBto%3D%26ddMto%3D%26ddDto%3D%26ddPto%3D%26mmBto%3D%26mmMto%3D%26mmDto%3D%26mmPto%3D%26yyBto%3D%26yyMto%3D%26yyDto%3D%26yyPto%3D%26locationB%3D%26locationM%3D%26locationD%3D%26locationP%3D%26keywordb%3D%26keywordm%3D%26keywordd%3D%26keywordp%3D%26event%3D%26district%3D)
1868 Elizabeth
1870 Mary
1872 Alice

If the mother Alice KINSLEY died aged 36 from "debility after childbirth" it implies she had another child c Oct 24 1880; this child may have been stillborn and not recorded but it also implies that there could be other children between 1872 and 1880 giving her age that we have not found

1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003768880/) John KINSLEY and daughter Elizabeth at 22.1 in Hardwicke Street (Rotunda, Dublin)

1911 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000074403/) John KINSLEY and daughter Mary BRYCE with her family, noting the children and husband were born in Scotland at 22.1 in Hardwicke Street (Rotunda, Dublin)

John KINSLEY died Jul 09 1913 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05328/4482896.pdf)

Alice Mary BRYCE m Ralf James HOPE on Apr 29 1932 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1932/09000/5257176.pdf)

Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: myluck! on Friday 19 January 18 11:01 GMT (UK)
1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003768884/) for John Joseph NOLAN and Alice KINSLEY
at 22.3 in Hardwicke Street (Rotunda, Dublin)
1911 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Mayor_St_/20540/) noting nephew James LESTER is with them
at 18.2 in Mayor St. (North Dock, Dublin)

They had at least ten children - LINK to some records (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-search.jsp?namefm=&namel=nolan&ddBfrom=&mmBfrom=&yyBfrom=1896&ddBto=&mmBto=&yyBto=1911&locationB=&keywordb=kinsley&ddMfrom=&mmMfrom=&yyMfrom=&ddMto=&mmMto=&yyMto=&locationM=&keywordm=&ddDfrom=&mmDfrom=&yyDfrom=&ddDto=&mmDto=&yyDto=&locationD=&keywordd=&submit=Search)

May 17 1897 Elizabeth Mary d. Feb 02 1903
Dec 12 1898 Mabel Christine
Sep 23 1900 Agnes Josephine d. Sep 02 1901
Aug 01 1902 John Joseph
Jul 10 1904 Samuel
May 18 1907 Alice Josephine d. Nov 29 1907
May 18 1907 James Joseph d. Jan 23 1908
Jan 30 1909 Edward William
Jan 12 1911 Alice Josephine
Mar 19 1913 Ethel Patricia
Title: Re: Marriage 1884
Post by: willow2670 on Sunday 21 January 18 01:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much myluck! Such a great help.