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Title: Advice please
Post by: tresario on Friday 19 January 18 10:53 GMT (UK)
I am looking for an obituary and I don't know where to look to find it. The death says senior..So that must mean there is a junior..Please can you help?I

Thomas Joseph McGuire was born on 24 November 1917 in New York, USA. He had one child with Mary Martello and at least one other child with an unknown spouse..Due to the death saying senior. He died on 21 December 1998 in East Rockaway, New York, USA, at the age of 81, and was buried in Calverton, New York, USA.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: nanny jan on Friday 19 January 18 13:02 GMT (UK)
A Thomas J McGuire (born 24 November 1917) has an entry on US Veterans Gravesites; shown as a Sergeant in US Army Air Corps.

Are you able to access his service records which might give family details?

This might help:

https://history.army.mil/reference/records.htm
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 January 18 13:14 GMT (UK)
Have you tried East Rockaway Public Library

https://www.eastrockawaylibrary.org/

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: tresario on Friday 19 January 18 13:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you i will look at both now. Neither site will let me search. Do you know how i might access the information please.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: shellyesq on Friday 19 January 18 13:49 GMT (UK)
I don't think there's anything to search on either of those sites.  There is a contact form for the East Rockaway library here - https://www.eastrockawaylibrary.org/about-us/contact-us/ 

Some recent military records were destroyed by a 1973 fire, and I think I was quoted a price of something like $75 to get what records they still had.

Do you know where your guy was circa 1940?  Could the child be on that census with him?
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: RJ137 on Friday 19 January 18 16:16 GMT (UK)
Try going down this path.

Thomas marries Alice R. in 1953.

Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLST-HYTN

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Public records. Note location and names listed.

Alice: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K5MJ-XDJ

J***: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K5MJ-XDJ

T*** Jr: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJVJ-86XC


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White Pages

Alice R: https://www.whitepages.com/name/Alice-Mcguire/NY

T***Jr: https://www.whitepages.com/name/Thomas-Mcguire/East-Rockaway-NY

===

Check out
25 Grant Ave, East Rockaway, NY 11518

https://rehold.com/East+Rockaway+NY/GRANT+AVE
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: tresario on Friday 19 January 18 21:23 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your help x
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: tresario on Saturday 20 January 18 10:30 GMT (UK)
I have looked for parents and siblings of Thomas senior, I am unable to find anything, please can you help with that too?
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: RJ137 on Saturday 20 January 18 14:56 GMT (UK)
His parents were Thomas J McGuire & Anastasia V Walsh.

1915 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K9JD-Y2P

Thomas J Mc Guire    36
Anastasio Mc Guire    27
Veronica Mc Guire    2
Rita Mc Guire    1

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Wife listed as Anastasia V. Mcguire

WWII Draft Registration:  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXYK-XXD

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mother Anastasia listed as widowed.

1920 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJRK-DF8

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1925 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K91Q-21Z

Anastasia Mc Guire    38
Veronica Mc Guire    12
Rita Mc Guire    11
Thomas Mc Guire    07

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Anastasia gets remarried to a Gerald F. Sullivan

Anastasia is listed as widowed, but she is not!


1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7XS-JX4

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Anastasia dies in 1935.


The Brooklyn Daily Eagle
Brooklyn, New York
Wednesday, June 05, 1935 - Page 15

https://www.newspapers.com/image/52622953/?terms=%22Anastasia+V+Walsh%22

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Gerald dies in 1940

Death: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WRC-5PF

Gerald Sullivan: https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=174867396

Anastasia Sullivan: https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=174866973
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 15:59 GMT (UK)
Rita Anastasia McGuire - Rita McGuire Cobb born 29 January 1914 passed away 28 May 1998 -
Parents - Thomas J McGuire - Mother Anastasia V McGuire.
Last Residence 10304 Staten Island, Richmond, New York.  SSN issued New York (Before 1951)

Sandra

Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: tresario on Saturday 20 January 18 16:08 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much. Very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 16:25 GMT (UK)
Quote from: RJ137 on Saturday 20 January 18 14:56 GMT (UK)
His parents were Thomas J McGuire & Anastasia V Walsh.

1915 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K9JD-Y2P

Thomas J Mc Guire    36
Anastasio Mc Guire    27
Veronica Mc Guire    2
Rita Mc Guire    1

================
Wife listed as Anastasia V. Mcguire

WWII Draft Registration:  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXYK-XXD

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mother Anastasia listed as widowed.

1920 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJRK-DF8

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1925 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K91Q-21Z

Anastasia Mc Guire    38
Veronica Mc Guire    12
Rita Mc Guire    11
Thomas Mc Guire    07

==================

Anastasia gets remarried to a Gerald F. Sullivan

Anastasia is listed as widowed, but she is not!


1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7XS-JX4

==================

Anastasia dies in 1935.


The Brooklyn Daily Eagle
Brooklyn, New York
Wednesday, June 05, 1935 - Page 15

https://www.newspapers.com/image/52622953/?terms=%22Anastasia+V+Walsh%22

======================

Gerald dies in 1940

Death: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WRC-5PF

Gerald Sullivan: https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=174867396

Anastasia Sullivan: https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=174866973

This seems to be Anastasia on the 1940 census - which contradicts the death notice in 1935  ???
Are there two families with the same names  ???  Concerned whether this is the correct family.  ???


1940 census - Gerritsen Avenue Kings New York

James Cobb 36 Head. Welder.
Reita Cobb   26 Wife.
Anastasia McGuire 52 Mother-in-law. Widowed.
Thomas McGuire 22 Brother-in-law. Clerk. Oil Co.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9MY-2KNV?i=24&cc=2000219

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 16:28 GMT (UK)
Veronica Mary McGuire/Toole - 10 September 1912 passed away 17 November 1990 - parents listed as Thos J McGuire and Mother Anastasia V Malone.

Last Residence 10306 Staten Island, Richmond, New York.

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 16:33 GMT (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

Anastasia McGuire - 21 September 1959 -  ???

Burial - Holy Cross Cemetery  Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York, USA
PLOT Trinity, System: CEM, Section: TRIN, Row: Q, Plot: 12

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/173602994

and a Thomas J McGuire who passed away 30 October 1918

Burial - Holy Cross Cemetery  Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York, USA
PLOT Trinity, System: CEM, Section: TRIN, Row: Q, Plot: 12

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/173853767/thomas-mcguire

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 16:49 GMT (UK)
1940 census - Gerritsen Avenue Kings New York

James Cobb 36 Head. Welder.
Reita Cobb   26 Wife.
Anastasia McGuire 52 Mother-in-law. Widowed.
Thomas McGuire 22 Brother-in-law. Clerk. Oil Co.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9MY-2KNV?i=24&cc=2000219

FIND A GRAVE

Rita A Cobb - passed away 1 June 1998

Burial - Holy Cross Cemetery  Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/148429560/rita-a.-cobb

James J Cobb - 20 November 1982

Burial - Holy Cross Cemetery  Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/148429555/james-j.-cobb

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 16:54 GMT (UK)
Maureen Cobb Murphy - daughter of James and Rita (above) - passed away 5 th March 2005
Interment St. Peter's Cemetery.

SSDI - Maureen R. Murphy - 20 October 1941 - 5 March 2005
Last Residence Staten Island, 10314, Richmond, New York.

Obit -

http://files.usgwarchives.net/ny/richmond/obits/sia/2005/mar/sia07mar2005.txt

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 17:00 GMT (UK)
Thomas J McGuire - born 5 October 1917 Brooklyn passed away December 1990 - parents listed Thomas J McGuire - Mother Anastasia V Malone.

This Thomas belongs to the family above but it is not the correct birth date listed on the original post
24 November 1917 - 21 December 1998

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 17:43 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: tresario on Saturday 20 January 18 19:27 GMT (UK)
This date was from his first marriage to Mary Martello born 1917.they had just the one child a girl .

So is any of the information valid please? I'm confused.

One lot says Anastasia v wals h the other Anastasia v malone.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 19:37 GMT (UK)
When I followed the children RJ137 gave in reply 8 - Veronica, Rita and Thomas McGuire - those children came up with a mother Anastasia V Malone.  Trying to find out if this is the same Anastasia -  or were there two  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 21:43 GMT (UK)
U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - Thomas Joseph McGuire - 24 November 1917 - passed away 21 December 1998 - parents Joseph C McGuire and Mother Anna Reil

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 21:49 GMT (UK)
Andrew Macguire - died 12 November 1919 Brooklyn - same parents - Joseph Macguire and Anna Reil
burial 14 November 1919    St. Johns Cem.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WN5-CRF

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 January 18 21:53 GMT (UK)
Marriage - Joseph C McGuire and AnnaG Reill - Manhattan, New York City - 2 December 1914 -

License Number 31989

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 14:40 GMT (UK)
1920 census Sullivan Street Brooklyn Assembly District 3, Kings, New York.

Joseph Mcguire   27 Born 1893 NY. Clerk.
Annie Mcguire   26 Born 1894 PA. Parents born Ireland.
Thomas Mcguire   2 Born NY.
Peter Riel   35 Born PA. Rivetter.  Boarder.
Joseph Riel 32 Born PA. Machinist helper.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRF3-9JZ?i=6&cc=1488411

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 14:43 GMT (UK)
1930 census  East 2nd Street Brooklyn. NY

Joeseph Mc Guire 38 Born NY. Clerk. Brokers Office.
Anna Mc Guire   36 Born PA.
Thomas Mc Guire 12 Born NY.
Joeseph Reill   38 Born PA. Brother-in-law. Truckdriver.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RCP-QXG?i=6&cc=1810731

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 14:57 GMT (UK)
WW2 Draft - Joseph Cornelius McGuire - 21 December 1892 - 612 - 80 th Brooklyn Kings NY.
Name and address of person who will always know him - Anna McGuire - same address as above - Employer - Baker, Weeks, Harden.  52 Wall Street NYC.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6Q1S-Z1K?i=3442&cc=1861144

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:05 GMT (UK)
Death record for a Margaret McGuire - born 12 November 1920 - died 29 September 1921 - 61 Sullivan Street Brooklyn Kings NY.
Cemetery - Holy Cross Cemetery. Parents Joseph C McGuire and Anna Keill

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WVK-WKZ

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:08 GMT (UK)
WW1 Draft - Joseph C McGuire - 127 Dikeman Street Brooklyn NY.  Clerk. married - wife to support -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-816B-8S4?i=4511&cc=1968530

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:12 GMT (UK)
SSDI - Joseph McGuire - 21 December 1892 - passed away January 1979- Last Residence:   
11518 East Rockaway, Nassau, New York.
SSN issued New York (Before 1951)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKL3-B4S

Sandra


Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:18 GMT (UK)
This looks like Joseph C McGuire with his widowed mother and siblings - Sullivan Street    Brooklyn Ward 12, Kings, New York - 1910

Margaret Mc Guire   52 Born Ireland. Imm 1866 (1860) widowed. had 10 children and 9 survive.
Luke V Mc Guire   35 born PA.
James F Mc Guire   32 Born PA.
John J Mc Guire   30 Born NY.
Annie G Mc Guire   28 Born NY.
Thomas S Mc Guire   26 Born NY.
Edward ? Mc Guire   24 Born NY.
Arthur R Mc Guire   21 Born  NY.
Catherine M Mc Guire   18 Born NY.
Joseph C Mcguire   16 Born NY. Office Boy. Brokers Office.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRV4-NZF?i=18&cc=1727033

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:22 GMT (UK)
Joseph with siblings and both parents - 1905 census Brooklyn, Kings, New York.

Thomas Mcguire   35 Margret Mcguire   35
Luke Mcguire   28 James Mcguire   26
John Mcguire   24 Thomas Mcguire   21
Edward Mcguire   17 Arthur Mcguire   15
Annie Mcguire   20 Kate Mcguire   14
Joseph Mcguire   10

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:30 GMT (UK)
1900 census Sullivan Street Brooklyn Ward 12, Kings, New York.

Thomas L Mc Guire 55 Born August 1844 Ireland. Machinist.
Margarett Mc Guire 42 Born July 1857 Ireland.  Married 1873. Imm 1868. Had 10 children 9 survive.
Luke V Mc Guire   25 Annie G Mc Guire 22
James F Mc Guire 21 John J Mc Guire   18
Thomas A Mc Guire 16
Edward A Mc Guire 13 Arthur Mc Guire   10
Catherine Mc Guire 8 Joseph Mc Guire   6

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-673P-2L?i=25&cc=1325221

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:33 GMT (UK)
On the death record for Luke Victor McGuire - 25 january 1912 brooklyn Kings NY. Parents listed as Thomas McGuire and Margaret Coniker.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WBS-KS1

FIND A GRAVE

Burial - Holy Cross Cemetery  Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.
PLOT Section C, System: CEM, Section: CCCC, Row: 2, Plot: 94

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/173781825

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:37 GMT (UK)
James Francis Mcguire - 1877 - passed away 16 March 1911 - father Thomas McGuire and Mother Margaret Coniker - Cemetery - Holy Cross Cemetery 20 March 1911

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WN3-6V1

Sandra

Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:39 GMT (UK)
Anna A. nee McGuire/Peterson - 20 November 1931 - husband Hans Peterson. Parents Thomas McGuire and Margaret Coniker - burial Holy Cross cemetery 25 November 1931

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WKQ-GHS

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:41 GMT (UK)
Arthur R. Mcguire - 10 March 1936 - Brooklyn Kings NY - spouse Mary. Parents Thomas McGuire and Margaret Coniker. Burial Holy Cross Cemetery

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WRN-18X

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:50 GMT (UK)
Edward Mcguire - 10 April 1924 - Brooklyn Kings New York - burial -  Holy Cross Cemetery - 14 April 1924 - parents - Thomas Mcguire and Margaret Coniker.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WBW-QQV

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 16:15 GMT (UK)
This appears to be the same family in 1880, although Luke is called Lewis - West Twenty Six Street
New York City, New York.  Could Catherine be the mother of Thomas McGuire  (nothing written on image )???

Thomas Mc Guire 36 Maggie Mc Guire 27
Lewis Mc Guire   6 Annie Mc Guire   4
James Mc Guire   3 John Mc Guire   11 months.
Catherine McGuire aged 75 years.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYBJ-S37?i=14&cc=1417683

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 16:22 GMT (UK)
The age is slightly out on this record - but could this be a possibility for the death of Thomas (15 october 1907)  and his parents - Luke McGuire and Catherine Dalton.  ???
Burial - Holy cross cemetery 19 October 1907.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WFP-SZF

Sandra
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 16:26 GMT (UK)
Quote from: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 15:12 GMT (UK)
SSDI - Joseph McGuire - 21 December 1892 - passed away January 1979- Last Residence:   
11518 East Rockaway, Nassau, New York.
SSN issued New York (Before 1951)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKL3-B4S

Sandra

FIND A GRAVE

Holy Cross Cemetery - Joseph C McGuire - 15 January 1979

Burial - Holy Cross Cemetery  Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.
PLOT St. Charles, System: CEM, Section: CHAR, Row: 4, Plot: 24

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/173784645/joseph-c-mcguire
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: tresario on Sunday 21 January 18 21:41 GMT (UK)
Sandra..you are a star, thank you xx ;D
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 22 January 18 10:45 GMT (UK)
Your very welcome. Pleased to have helped.

Sandra