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Title: Ruabon baptism 1847 / 1848
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 19 January 18 14:23 GMT (UK)
Mary Hopwood , birth was registered Dec qtr 1847 at Ruabon.
Can anyone find her baptism , her parents Richard and Elizabeth  married in Ruabon Church so hopefully she will be in the PRs .
I`m hoping it will give her place of birth / or parents abode.
Title: Re: Ruabon baptism 1847 / 1848
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 19 January 18 14:26 GMT (UK)
Can you find her on a census with a place of birth?
Title: Re: Ruabon baptism 1847 / 1848
Post by: Gadget on Friday 19 January 18 14:28 GMT (UK)
Nothing in Parish registers or Freereg.

PS - could they be Baptists?
Title: Re: Ruabon baptism 1847 / 1848
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 19 January 18 15:39 GMT (UK)
Not sure about religion. I`m trying to confirm a story that she born in the Prince of Wales Inn in the Rhos district.
1851  Moreton Above, Rhos,  all born Ruabon.
 Elizabeth Hopwood   widow 35  (looks more like 55 to me )
 Edward Hopwood  27
 Mary Hopwood  17

Title: Re: Ruabon baptism 1847 / 1848
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 19 January 18 15:40 GMT (UK)
Not sure about religion. I`m trying to confirm a story that she born in the Prince of Wales Inn in the Rhos district.
1851  Moreton Above, Rhos,  all born Ruabon.
 Elizabeth Hopwood   widow 35  (looks more like 55 to me )
 Edward Hopwood  27
 Mary Hopwood  17

Just spotted this doesn`t match her dob  ???
Title: Re: Ruabon baptism 1847 / 1848
Post by: Gadget on Friday 19 January 18 16:04 GMT (UK)
Had a look at my Rhos records and they don't start until 1853. I'll have another look with that age. When did Elizabeth and Richard marry - to save me looking it up!

PS - NW BMD certainly has that registration though!
Title: Re: Ruabon baptism 1847 / 1848
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 19 January 18 16:31 GMT (UK)
Father was Robert Hopwood  who was a coal miner and publican, who married Elizabeth Davies in 1844 at Ruabon.
Mary b 1847.
Richard b 1849
Catherine b 1851

I think the family I found may be Roberts mother and siblings .
Father was Richard b 1794 Mold and Elizabeth was Mears.

It`s not to find out the ancestry etc of this family,  that is not important , but just to clarify that there was a pub called Prince of Wales  in 1847.

Rather than ask for a search for the pub , I thought it best to give  names and dates that link to it.  I can`t see it named in the 1851 census .
There are 2 pubs of this name on the CFHS site, but no details of publicans and years.
Please don`t spend lots of time on this. 
Title: Re: Ruabon baptism 1847 / 1848
Post by: Gadget on Friday 19 January 18 16:38 GMT (UK)
Was just going to post that - have typed it out so

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Not sure if you've got the correct Mary - see 1851 HO107/2503/306/52

Pant, Moreton Above
Robert Hopwood, 27, coal miner and publican
Elizabeth, 27
Mary, 3
Ricahrd, 1
Catherine, under 1
All born Ruabon
Title: Re: Ruabon baptism 1847 / 1848
Post by: Gadget on Friday 19 January 18 16:45 GMT (UK)
There's  one listed in Hand Lane, Ponciau ( the former Prince of Wales)

https://www.wrexham-history.com/prince-wales-hand-lane-ponciau/

PS - And here:

http://www.clwydfhs.org.uk/miscellanea/ruaboninns.htm

(Think the Ponciau one more likely than the Cefn one!)
Title: Re: Ruabon baptism 1847 / 1848
Post by: Gadget on Friday 19 January 18 17:06 GMT (UK)
It's still there - at the end of the lane:

https://goo.gl/maps/BCmXyC22MQk
Title: Re: Ruabon baptism 1847 / 1848
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 19 January 18 18:29 GMT (UK)
Thanks,  I'll try to find more on this.