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General => Technical Help => Topic started by: jillruss on Saturday 20 January 18 13:25 GMT (UK)
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I have 4 new data CDs from an FHS. They do not open automatically, but, when I go into the CD drive, a window opens with an icon named Temporary CD Burn. When I click on this icon, another window opens to show me the contents of the CD I'm trying to use.
The second window is normal for data CDs that don't open automatically, but never before have I had to go via this Burn window. I don't want to burn anything, nor have I ever used the Burn facility. So, why are these new CDs taking me there?
This plea for help is linked to this thread of yesterday:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=786091.new;topicseen
and, as you will see, one of the CDs labels was badly stuck down and became even worse when in the CD slot, so much so that I'm convinced its ruined because the label has taken away a great blob of the silver coating so that you can see right through it. The CD certainly will not now load.
I'm now reluctant to try to use any of the other 3 new Cds again (they also only open via the Temorary CD Burn window, as above) and their labels don't look any too well fixed down either.
I'm not tech savvy so am quietly panicking here as to what to do.
HELP!
Jill
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I don't want to burn anything, nor have I ever used the Burn facility.
Jill
Has anyone else burnt anything??
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Rightly or wrongly windows thinks you have files waiting to be burnt, as other cds work it is possible that these four have not been properly closed when they were burnt so windows is checking to see if they are blank rewritable cds.
I think it is ok but inconvenient to carry on using the three that work, the fourth I would ask for a replacement.
How you get rid of the temporary burn message depends what version of windows you are using,
some on the same version may be able to help.
Mike
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I don't want to burn anything, nor have I ever used the Burn facility.
Jill
Has anyone else burnt anything??
No, I'm the only one with access to this PC.
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Rightly or wrongly windows thinks you have files waiting to be burnt, as other cds work it is possible that these four have not been properly closed when they were burnt so windows is checking to see if they are blank rewritable cds.
I think it is ok but inconvenient to carry on using the three that work, the fourth I would ask for a replacement.
How you get rid of the temporary burn message depends what version of windows you are using,
some on the same version may be able to help.
Mike
That's interesting, Mike. Someone else has suggested that these Cds have not been properly finished, including the fact that the labels aren't attached properly. They are from a reputable FHS so I don't know what's gone on. I've emailed them to ask for a replacement but I'm thinking I should email them again and point out what may be an error by whoever prepares their CDs.
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Googling seems to suggest strongly that sticking labels on cds is not advisable.
Mike
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Googling seems to suggest strongly that sticking labels on cds is not advisable.
Mike
Presumably unless its done professionally.
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When you burn a CD you get various options, one of which leaves it 'open' and allows you to add further files later if you haven't completely filled the available space. It sounds like this may be the reason for the 'Burn Window' opening, giving you the option to add more files. If so you can safely close the Burn window and access the CD as suggested by others. CDs produced for sale are normally closed to prevent re-writing.
If it was mine I would copy all the readable files to my hard drive, or to new blank CDs, while waiting for a response from the fhs. At least you would have something to work on in the meantime.
I have labelled CDs in the past with no problems but these days I usually write directly on them. Many CDs have a writeable/printable surface.
Mike.
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I know bu99@r all about Windows computers but I've always understood that one reason to finalise writable disks was to enable them to be read by other computers etc. If this is the case they shouldn't be readable by jillruss's computer.
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I'm happy to be corrected if anyone has the definitive answer, but my understanding is that 'closing' a data CD simply prevents further files being written to it. If left 'open' the files should be readable by any device using the same file system, but more data files may be burnt on the free space. If it is a re-writeable CD it would also be possible to overwrite the originals.
Music CDs must be closed properly after burning or they will not work in most CD players.
In this case it does seem that someone may have used the wrong settings when burning the CD, and possibly used the wrong or defective labels.
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I know bu99@r all about Windows computers but I've always understood that one reason to finalise writable disks was to enable them to be read by other computers etc. If this is the case they shouldn't be readable by jillruss's computer.
The reason for closing off a disc when you burn one was primarily for compatability with some CD or DVD drives - especially those not part of a computer system.
Closing a disc in this manner simply meant that depending upon disc type you couldn't add more information to it. Given a decent CD/DVD drive the computer should be able to read the disc whether closed off or not.
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Thanks, all.
I have been able to read all 4 CDs, albeit with the Temprary Burn window opening. The main problem is now the labels. One is off completely, and took a good bit of the CD with it - almost got caught up in the CD slot - and another is not looking good, so I have no faith that any of them will stand up to fair wear.
However, the FHS appear to have identified the faulty batch and have said I should receive replacements within 7 days, so I shall wait and hope that the replacements will finally allow me to get cracking!
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From what I remember of the days when we copied cds on the computer rather than producing CDs from files on a proper cd producer the Temporary CD Burn is a holding file that should have been deleted after the original cd had been copied. I suggest the CD was removed before the write (burn) process had completed.
I would suggest even using a stamper there is no guarantee the label would be securely fixed to the cd surface. There is also the potential the adhesive used to stick the label to the cd could cause deterioration of the coating over time also any wrinkle in the label has the possibility to damage the read head of any CD player as gap tolerances are small.
We chose direct printing onto disks in 2005 when we first started.
Cheers
Guy
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Thanks, Guy.
I have never ever had this problem before, and, over the past 12 years of researching my family history, I have acquired quite a few data Cds from various FHSs (including Anguline). I suspect these have been done - shall we say - 'not professionally' - and I hope it won't be repeated.
The label was wrinkled to start with and then I could literally hear it scrunching in the CD slot - got it out pretty damn quickly though and I don't think there's been any damage to my Cd player.