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Title: panormo
Post by: chrissyann on Saturday 20 January 18 21:32 GMT (UK)

I wonder if anyone can help me find the following people on the 1851 census for Lancashire?
Joseph Panormo (19)born 1832 Liverpool
Mary Panormo (17)born 1834 Liverpool
Isabella Panormo(10)born 1841 Liverpool
I found these names on Ukcensusonline but with no other details.There is no mention of them on Ancestry or Findmypast so running out of ideas!
Would be very grateful for any help
Chrissyann

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 20 January 18 21:57 GMT (UK)

Sadly no.  From the birth years Isabella can't be a daughter of Joseph or Mary as their ages are too close together.

The surname does crop up but on London registers not Lancashire  :(

Is there a birth registration for Isabella 1841? **

** can't see one. 

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 20 January 18 22:01 GMT (UK)

Potentially mistranscribed on various sources? This is the Ancestry transcription, but the image isn;t v clear and it could begin with a P

37 Harding St, West Derby
    
John Rawsom    41 - foundry labourer b Garstang
Elizabeth Rawsom    40 b Garstang
Joseph Rawsom    19
Mary Rawsom    17
Isabella Rawsom    10

HO107, 2192, 571, 13

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 20 January 18 22:04 GMT (UK)

What is your interest in the family.  Is the surname you are researching definitely Panormo

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 20 January 18 22:04 GMT (UK)

Goodness I would never have found that  :o

Agree it does look like a P.

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: avm228 on Saturday 20 January 18 22:07 GMT (UK)

Oh I remember the other Panormo thread - interesting musical family:

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=778027.0

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: avm228 on Saturday 20 January 18 22:13 GMT (UK)

I read the 1851 Lancs family as Parsons ???

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 20 January 18 22:17 GMT (UK)

Suspect they may have a far more prosaic name

1841 West Derby
    
John Parsons    30
Elizabeth Parsons    30
Joseph Parsons    9
Mary Parsons    6
Isabella Parsons    2
Elizabeth Parsons    6 Mo

HO107, 568, 32, 25

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: ele002 on Sunday 21 January 18 10:10 GMT (UK)

I would agree.

Looks very much like Parsons. A bit of a come down :'(

Eric

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: Marj on Sunday 21 January 18 16:08 GMT (UK)

The Genealogist.co.uk has it transcribed

Census Transcript Household Lancashire 1851
Address
37 Harding Street
Parish
West Derby
Registration District
West Derby
Image Reference
HO107/2192/F?


John Panormo 11 Head  Gastang, Lancashire Foundry Labourer
Elizabeth Panormo 40 wife Gastang, Lancashire
 Joseph Panormo 19 son Liverpool, Lancashire
Mary Panormo 17 Daughter Liverpool, Lancashire
Isabella Panormo 10 Daughter iverpool, Lancashire
 

Marj
   
 

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: stanmapstone on Sunday 21 January 18 16:18 GMT (UK)

Definitely Parsons

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: ele002 on Sunday 21 January 18 18:25 GMT (UK)

There is a birth of Isabella Parsons...1841 West Derby...mmn Harrison.

And may I suggest a marriage...John Harrison & Betty Harrison... 9 Aug 1830 at Garstang.

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: ele002 on Sunday 21 January 18 18:27 GMT (UK)

Sorry.. John Parsons & Betty Harrison.

Slip of the finger Your Honour!

Title: Re: panormo
Post by: chrissyann on Sunday 21 January 18 20:30 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the replies,that would explain a lot!I've found lots about the Panormo family so I thought I'd found another branch in Liverpool!
Thanks everyone
Chrissy
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