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Title: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: Bilcor1 on Sunday 21 January 18 15:25 GMT (UK)
Above couple William J Bruce b 1875 Peterhead d ? & Georgina Craigens b 1879 Peterhead d 1977 South Vancouver, BC  married 1907 in Peterhead
Have some children from passport on Ancestry Phyillia, Winifred, William
Just wondered where he is buried and info on children
William J Bruce seemed to have been in Canada from 1900
Bilcor1
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: polarbear on Sunday 21 January 18 16:06 GMT (UK)
Do you have parents' names for William?

PB
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 21 January 18 16:09 GMT (UK)
Is this your Georgina Bruce b 1879, d 1977?

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/b6b27515-4813-4bbd-9892-6c16c50692c7

Burial place for her is listed as Vancouver crematorium.   I would expect William would be there too??

RK
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: Bilcor1 on Sunday 21 January 18 16:47 GMT (UK)
Polar Bear parents Peter Bruce & Barbara Buchan
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: Bilcor1 on Sunday 21 January 18 16:50 GMT (UK)
Yes Run Kitty thats her death
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 16:59 GMT (UK)
Herbert Evans Bruce - 1 March 1909 passed away 22 February 1982 -    Victoria, British Columbia.
spouse Eleanora Hoffman - parents William Bruce and Georgina.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL1D-875

Sandra
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 17:02 GMT (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

Herbert  and Eleanore - Hatley Memorial Gardens

https://billiongraves.com/grave/person/24479280

Sandra

Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 17:04 GMT (UK)
William George Bruce - 23 January 1918 Calgary Alberta - passed away 5 March 1984 - Trail, British Columbia. spouse Mary Lightbody -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL1J-PM9

Sandra   


Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 17:22 GMT (UK)
Polar Bear parents Peter Bruce & Barbara Buchan

William Bruce 19 July 1876 passed away 15 February 1932 Vancouver british Columbia.
Father Peter Bruce Mother's Name Barbara Buchan

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL26-92P

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ldx/

Sandra
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: Christine53 on Sunday 21 January 18 17:26 GMT (UK)
Have some children from passport on Ancestry Phyillia, Winifred, William
Bilcor1

I don't think this is the same family. This family lived in Montana . They are William J Bruce , son of William Bruce and Elizabeth Cruickshank , who was born in 1876 in Aberdeen , and Georgina Gray , also from Aberdeen. They married 28 Dec 1909 in Lewistown, Fergus, Montana. The Passport Application says he had been living in Fergus County for 16 years.
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 21 January 18 17:51 GMT (UK)
Herbert Evans Bruce - 1 March 1909 passed away 22 February 1982 -    Victoria, British Columbia.
spouse Eleanora Hoffman - parents William Bruce and Georgina.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL1D-875

Sandra

William, Georgina C and Herbert E Bruce in Calgary Alberta 1916.

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21949/jpg/31228_4363978-00131.jpg

William is a tailor.  The family came to Canada in 1912.   This says Herbert E was born in Scotland.

RK
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 17:54 GMT (UK)
Have some children from passport on Ancestry Phyillia, Winifred, William
Bilcor1

I don't think this is the same family. This family lived in Montana . They are William J Bruce , son of William Bruce and Elizabeth Cruickshank , who was born in 1876 in Aberdeen , and Georgina Gray , also from Aberdeen. They married 28 Dec 1909 in Lewistown, Fergus, Montana. The Passport Application says he had been living in Fergus County for 16 years.

Sorry had a visitor and had to stop for a while - I agree with you Christine - same names but not the correct family. The couple in Montana were married 28 December 1909 Fergus Montana as you said.

Sandra
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: polarbear on Sunday 21 January 18 18:06 GMT (UK)
I also agree that is a different family. The William had been in Montana United States since 1900 according to his passport application and he was a naturalized US citizen.

Deleted the rest.....I somehow missed RK's post about the census. Apologies RK.

William being a Tailor seems to match the 1901 Scotland census where he is found with parents and siblings.

PB
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 21 January 18 18:11 GMT (UK)
1931 Vancouver directory...

William of Bruce and Son... home? 184 E 22.  Is a Herbert E also of Bruce and Son, same home? address.

http://bccd.vpl.ca/index.php/browse/title/1931/Wrigley%27s_British_Columbia_Directory

RK
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 21 January 18 18:17 GMT (UK)
1922 Vancouver directory

Wm Bruce, tailor, Swan Bros. 

(says Brown at the top of the page, but the previous page shows that these listings are actually for surname Bruce)

http://bccd.vpl.ca/browse/title/1922/Henderson%27s_Greater_Vancouver_Directory

RK
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: Bilcor1 on Sunday 21 January 18 19:21 GMT (UK)
Sandra when I press the link to Family Search it just opens their main page for me to sign in
Thanks very much for the other information
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 19:22 GMT (UK)
Sandra when I press the link to Family Search it just opens their main page for me to sign in
Thanks very much for the other information

Yes, you need to be registered and signed in now to see anything on family search.  Its doesn't cost anything -

Sandra
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 19:24 GMT (UK)
Polar Bear parents Peter Bruce & Barbara Buchan

William Bruce 19 July 1876 passed away 15 February 1932 Vancouver british Columbia.
Father Peter Bruce Mother's Name Barbara Buchan

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL26-92P

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ldx/

Sandra

William Bruce   Death
Event Date 15 Feb 1932
Event Place Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Gender Male
Age 55
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 19 Jul 1876
Birth Year (Estimated) 1877
Birthplace  Scotland
Father's Name Peter Bruce
Mother's Name Barbara Buchan
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: Bilcor1 on Sunday 21 January 18 19:30 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Christine53 would have gone in wrong direction
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: Bilcor1 on Sunday 21 January 18 19:44 GMT (UK)
Sandra was reg thanks got it
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 January 18 19:48 GMT (UK)


That's great.

Sandra
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: Bilcor1 on Sunday 21 January 18 19:49 GMT (UK)
Need help with directories
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: Bilcor1 on Sunday 21 January 18 19:56 GMT (UK)
Any record of family immigrating in 1912 boat etc
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: polarbear on Sunday 21 January 18 20:02 GMT (UK)
The ship manifest image with Georgina and Herbert can be found on Ancestry. I don't believe we are allowed to post it here? Might be available on familysearch but I haven't looked there.

For the directories.....eg. 1931

On the left side choose Greater Vancouver Names A-Z.....then B.....then Bru

PB
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: polarbear on Sunday 21 January 18 20:12 GMT (UK)
Georgina and young Herbert arrived Montreal Quebec 22 Sep 1912 on the Hesperian. They would then have travelled to Calgary by train. Georgina is down as Mrs G.

PB

Added: the image from LAC

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-quebec-port-1865-1900/Pages/image.aspx?Image=e003583208&URLjpg=http%3a%2f%2fcentral.bac-lac.gc.ca%2f.item%2f%3fid%3de003583208%26op%3dimg&Ecopy=e003583208
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: Bilcor1 on Sunday 21 January 18 20:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks to all for your help
Billy
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: polarbear on Sunday 21 January 18 22:27 GMT (UK)
From this website.... 

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy

The marriage of William George....

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/b29b40ba-6e35-48da-a365-11384b0ba63a

William was living at the same address as a Gordon Drysdale Bruce in Trail BC, one of the witnesses.  It seems Gordon might be another brother.

In 1937,  a 16 year old Gordon Drysdale Bruce crossed the border to Washington State USA with his brother Herbert E for a short visit. Canadian contact was his mother Georgina Bruce of Trail BC. She perhaps moved there after William's death? Both Willam George and Gordon seem to be in the voter's lists for the area for a number of years.

PB
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: WestcoastBruce on Monday 22 January 18 04:04 GMT (UK)
Gordon Drysdale Bruce is the younger brother of Herbert Evans Bruce - there is a middle brother William (George) Bruce.  I don't believe that Georgina Bruce ever lived in Trial - she resided in Vancouver, but the 3 boys - at one point - all resided in Trial.  Willaim J. Bruce - does anybody know what the "J" stands for?

Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: Bilcor1 on Monday 22 January 18 08:58 GMT (UK)
The William J Bruce is the one married to Georgina Gray not Peter Bruce & Barbara Buchan's son also Gordon, William, & Herbert had a brother Andrew Buchan Bruce died in infancy in Peterhead
Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 22 January 18 10:21 GMT (UK)

William was living at the same address as a Gordon Drysdale Bruce in Trail BC, one of the witnesses.  It seems Gordon might be another brother.

In 1937,  a 16 year old Gordon Drysdale Bruce crossed the border to Washington State USA with his brother Herbert E for a short visit. Canadian contact was his mother Georgina Bruce of Trail BC. She perhaps moved there after William's death? Both Willam George and Gordon seem to be in the voter's lists for the area for a number of years.

PB

Gordon Drysdale Bruce is the younger brother of Herbert Evans Bruce - there is a middle brother William (George) Bruce.  I don't believe that Georgina Bruce ever lived in Trial - she resided in Vancouver, but the 3 boys - at one point - all resided in Trial.  Willaim J. Bruce - does anybody know what the "J" stands for?


Welcome to RootsChat Westcoast Bruce


Are you related ?

The William J Bruce who married and lived in Fergus Montana was William James Bruce according to his WW1 Draft (you need to be registered and signed into family search to view the record.)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-817P-9ZZQ?i=1182&cc=1968530

The border crossing which Polarbear quoted for George Drysdale Bruce born Vancouver  - arriving 5 September 1937 Northport, Washington does say Georgina Bruce lived in Trail BC (even though that is "ditto" from the info above)

Sandra



Title: Re: William J Bruce & Georgina Craigens
Post by: WestcoastBruce on Monday 22 January 18 21:23 GMT (UK)
I am related to Herbert Evans Bruce. My recollection is that Georgina Bruce did not leave Vancouver after William Bruce died - George Bruce and Gordon Bruce moved to trial for work - then Herbert joined them.